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Planning Commission Meeting Minutes of
April 5, 1979
• From 6:30 PM until 7:3o PM a review of the first part of the proposed Compre-
hensive Plan was made by J. Asmus, N. Enright, J. Antolik, and C. Johnson of
the Planning Commission, Planner S. Ryan, Attorney R. Knutson, Administrator
P. McGarvey, and three members of City Council, M. Curry, B. Nelson, and G.
Spande.
The regular meeting began at 7:30 PM when Chairman J. Asmus called for order.
.Answering roll call were Asmus, Antolik, Enright, and Johnson. Absent this
evening were Hazel and new member, Marvin Geisness. Engineer F. Burg was also
in attendance, as well as all people mentioned in paragraph one of these notes.
78.38 Motion was made by Antolik, seconded by Johnson, to approve the minutes of the
meeting held March 15, 1979.
Voting aye were Antolik, Enright, Johnson, and Asmus.
Attorney Knutson testified that the proper advertising had been done and that the
public hearing on the request of Harry S. Johnson for variance in lot size for
specific lots in the final plat of Wildwood Ponds South could begin, legally.
Mr. Johnson was present, He spoke about the lots being planned to give the
best homesites, the preservation of trees, and that he did not think it very
probable the developer would free to purchase any additional property to make
the late size-.sufficient.
PC member, J. Antolik, said he was concerned in granting these variances
because such action could set a precedent.
Member of the audience, Mrs. M. Raplinger, spoke asking that we "should be
careful of precedent-setting."
79.39 Motion was made by Enright, seconded by Antolik to close the public hearing.
Voting aye were Enright, Johnson, Asmus, and An~olik.
79.#0 Motion was made by Enright, seconded by Antolik, to recommend a denial of the.
request for variance in lot size for specific lots in the final plat of Wildwood
Ponds South, for reasons as .set forth in the report dated March 30, 1979, sent
to PG from Midwest Planning Research. These reasons dealt with no hardship,
because of no obvious physical ,justification for not meeting minimum lot size
requirements, and compliance with the request would set a future precedent for
dealing with density issues.
Voting for denial of the request were Johnson, Asmus, .Antolik, and Enright.
Mr. Johnson was asked to attend the Council meeting on Mon., April 166th.
79.x+1 Motion was made by Johnson, seco nded by Enright, to table a decision on final
plat approval for Wildwood Ponds South in view of action taken at Motion No.
79•~+0• (This action was taken upon the request of the applicant.)
Voice vote was taken. All members voted "aye".
Mr. Steve Mott, program director of the Mn Valley YMCA, presented what is planned
in the way of a program, for property owned by the Mn Valley Branch of YMCA
. on property located southwest of Kenwood Trail and Klamath Trail intersection.
Present, also, and speaking of future plans, was Mr. Jerry Adkins,Uirector.
Owners of land adjacent to the YMCA property were Mr. Walt Sternberg and Mr.
Paul Krause. Both had questions about what adult supervision the campers
would have and the hours they would be holding. Mr. .Sternberg also asked
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} - • about fire and pol".Cce protection being provided heat the taxpayers' expense.
Mr. Krause spoke about experiencing several times last summer, children being
let off buses in Kingswood Estates, and overrunning the property--in his barn,
swimming pool, etc.
Mr. Adkins said that another branch of YMCA had used the property, upon occasion,
last season. Mr. Mott said his program only called for daytime use. Mr. Adkins
said that their camp would be run under a-set of standards which called for one
counselor for ever 6/8 children and that standards for sanitation would be adherred
to.
79.x+2 Motion to close the hearing was made by Antolik, seconded by Enright.
Voting aye were Asmus, Antolik, Enright, and Johnson.
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79.x+3 Motion was made by , seconded by Enright, to recommend approval of the
public hearing request of YMCA for a conditional use on land owned by them, to
have a summer adventure club program, with seven conditions, and reviewal after
time period of one year. The conditions are: (1) YMCA should provide an adequate
number of portable, chemical-type sanitary facilities to serve the camp, and
these facilities should be set back at least 200 feet from Lake Kingsley, (2)
camper activity areas. should be located well away from the intersection of CoRd's
~+6 and 5. A buffer zone of at least fifty feet from the highway .should be
observed, (3) when plans are made to construct permanent structures, a conditional
use permit wi11 be required, no on-street parking of any vehicle, (5j
restrict all participants, (6) provision of adequate supervision at all times,
and the curfew ordinance shall be strictly imposed.
Voting aye were ~ntolk Enri ht, Johnson, and Asmu~• developer told of Council
meeting April 1 th at which t~iis ws.ll be an agenda item.
• Upon being told by the attorney that proper notification had been made, the
public hearing to consider the request of Joseph M. Miller for a conditional
use permit to construct a building at the N61 corner of Dodd Blvd. and 215th
Street, began.
Mr. Miller said the building would be 50' x 100', with colored sides. He
stated that with 100' frontage, sufficient parking would be established. His
business deals in taking lawn and snowplowing services to customers--very little
traffic is expected to come see him at this business location.
The planner gave his opinion: parking spaces were not definitely outlined,
screening was not adequate, storage area is not described, and percolation
testing should be done.
79.x+4 Motion was made by Antolik, seconded by Johnson, to close the public hearing.
Voting aye were Enright, Johnson, Asmus, and Antolik.
79.45 Motion was made by Enright, seconded by Johnson, to continue the Joseph M.
Milker public hearing request for conditional use permit to construct a building
at the NW corner of Dodd Blvd. and 225th Street, until April 19,,1979. (This
was done ~.~ithe concurrence of the applicant.) This was done to allow the planner's
suggestions to be put into effect.
Voting aye were Johnson, Asmus, Antolk, and Enright.
A review of a sketch plan for enlarging Ardmor Mobile Home Park began. The
plan and home sketches were presented by Mr. Gerald Toberman.
The present Ardmor Park is located on $'0 acres of land, and is home for 325
families, which is virtually 200,E of capacity. Tt is proposed to develop to
the north of the present park, on $9 acres of land, providing 310 unite. Each
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of the new lots wi~ be 65? wide and 100' deep. a"are five differen t
exteriors of the homes available, complete with 16' x 22' garages. The
homes, themselves, vary in size from X60' to 1,440 sq ft., and from 39,9QO to
• 9:900 in price
The development is proposed to be a condominium-type. Each home will be located.
on permanent piers and tied to permanent piers. There will not be basements.
Zt is proposed to make this a three-phase development--1~C? units tp be bui3t a
year.
Member Enright asked about any provision for open space? Mr. Toberman replied
that they were not planning any amenities at the present time. Mr. S. Ryan
said that our ordinance as to park dedication, would be adherred to.
Mr. Toberman stated that streets, utilities, etc, will be provided by them,
privately, and maintained by them.
The continueion of the public hearing for the preliminary plat of Bassett's 3rd
Addition, and conditional use permit and variances approval, was begun. Mr.
Ross Bassett was present.
79.46 A motion was made by Enright, see4nded by .Antolik, to close the public hearing.
Voting aye were Asmus, Antolik, Enright, and 3ohnsvn.
The lot that needs a variance, not of sufficient s~bac~,is Lot 7, Block 1.
This lot, however, had received approval in a previous platting.
7g.47 Motion was made by Johnson, seconded by Enright, to recommend approval of
Bassett's 3rd Addition Preliminary Plat; also approval of the variance for
Lot .7, Block 1, from 75-foot setback requirement. Approval is also recommended
for conditional use for building in shoreland district, based on the fact that
previously the property was in conformance to have a house.
Voting aye were Antolik~ Enright, Johnson, and Asmus. fir. Bassett was asked to
attend the Council meeting to be held Mon. eve, April l , 1979•
?9.48 Motion for adjournment came at gz30 PM. Motion was made by Enright, seconded
by Johnson.
All ~+aye~,.
Respectfully submitted,.
Chairman ~ Secretary
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Further review of the Comprehensive Plan proposal took place following the
meeting.
NOTE There w11 be a meeting,. Monday, April 1979, at 7s30 PM, in Council Chambers,
to further discuss, explain, and review the new Comprehensive Plan. Members of
Council and Planning Commission are asked to be in attendance.
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