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HomeMy WebLinkAbout06-02-77 • 9 LAK:"VILLE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES THURSDAX 8;00 PM 2 JUNE 1977 MUNICIPAL BUILDING AIr~LAiIE INDUSTRIAL PARK • Chairman Campbell called the .meeting to order at > PM. In attendance were members Campbell, Antolik, Lutgens, Sande, Jo jade, Hazel, and Asmus. Also present at this meeting were' Planner Licht,. attorney R. Knutson, Inspector D. :~oodermont, and Natural: Resources Chairman, D. Tatge. 77.64 Motion to approve the minutes of .the May 19th meeting was made 'oy ~ntolik, seconded by Asmus. Motion carried. aLl members .voting !+aye": public hearing notice. of Thomas R. Peterson for variance so home can. be placed ten feet closer to lake and/or road on Lot 2, Block 2, bveisner Addition, on 168th. St. north shore Orchard. Lake, was read. R. Knutson said the proper legal notices had peen sent. Mr. Peterson was present and said he would like to build a home on this property. D. Licht said \'he had just learned that zoning here was R-1B. He recommended a continuation of the hearing until June 16th meeting. He said Natural Resources Com- mittee •aould like to review. the matter at their meeting on the 7th, also. There is a drainage problem that. exists and. it does have to be .attended to. He recommended a "time delay because of referral services in the City'+, 77.65 Motion was made by Lutgens, seconded by antolik, to continue the hearing of Thomas R. Peterson for variance to build home :on property at Orchard Lake, as legally described.. Voting "aye'+ were Antolik, Lutgens, Spande, Jo jade, Hazel, and Asnus. Motion carried.. Notation i s to be made in these. minutes that commentary was made by J. Jo jade that work go through Committees and Staff before coming to Plaxuzing Commission, thus eliminating the loss of time and: embarrassnent to all concerned. The keeping of a bear by John Greaves, who. lives on Jonquil Av., was the next item on the .,agenda. According to news .article. in the Dakota. Co. Tribune, the bear is traveling with a carnival for the next sixmonths...(Article attached to these minutes. } R.; Knutson stated that our ordinance pertaining to the keeping of such animals,. is 'inadequate' and should be updated. The category definitions of -animals are arbitrary and non-conclusive Dave Licht said "the state requires licenses for the keeping of bears, and. other forms of wildlife. .Are non-domestic- animals:. accepted on the part of the City? If so, there should be some means of controlling the situation". It was the consensus of opinion that the owner of the bear should be notified that he can not bring the bear back to Lakeville (to be kept here D. Licht will write a recommendation on the bear and R. ifnutspn wil look it over-- hen it .will be brought to-the Planning`Commis- sion. :Attorney Xxiutson would like a letter to be written.. by Mr. McGarvey, Administrator, that the matter of .the keeping of the bear. i s under study, and` that. Mr: - Ureave s should not bring .the bear back to Lakeville--it is an ordinance violation and-the matter is under aCtudy._ The matter of the bear will be an agenda item for next meeting, June 16th. Chairman B. ' Campbell acknowledged the presence. of Natural Resources Chairman D.' Tatge and said .that comments from .him would be welcomed later in the evening. ~ item: on the agenda was a discussion with representatives of L' Chap-m Human Services to have a special treatment center in Airlake park, Two of their officials, their attorney, and Mr. John Fi~iwe, head of Dakota Co. probation services, were present to `tell of the need of a child shelter and treatment .center. Their concern .will be with • boys and girls who have. problems in their homes, "small" offenses, called ''status offenses" troubles of a first-time nature. The shelter would help" these children. It is the desire of the courts and .the law not to place these children with hard-core. offenders--they would like an interim facility,; where with proper diet, counseling, and programing,; an honest attempt would- be made "to return. them to their homes, better. adjusted. G. Spande asked, ++wny an industrial park'+? The answer was that at Home Away, a -similar center located in a sma.11 industrial park in Golden Va17gr, 'fan isolated. situation gets the best results". Antolik asked what the. ages of these children would bet "Between 13 years and 18 years, basically ~+--was the reply. Camp bell wished to .know if thi s' was a private enterprise? ~swer--'+we' will be providing treatment services to Dakota` County., It i s a private enterpri se, cooperating with and very clo rely regulated by, `the State ` of Minn. Planner Licht asked,.-"could another such organization come in and compete with you"? " Answer was affirmative. Hazel' wished to know *.Jhat the 'average stay .might be. "Hopefully, no more than 16 days, where shelter was needed; treatment average stay might • be as long as nine months'+. Hazel asked where the srource would be,, where these children might be sent from to such a center? They would be coming from' court and welfare. referrals. J. Rowe said, presently, Dakota Co. children have to be sent outside the county .for this. type of shelter and treatment. It is necessary to have .some .type of facility where an attempt will be made to return status offenders tb their families. This stage is important--between this and 'chard-core kids"--we have no other croice. Spande wished to know how many other counties within this seven-county area, have these facilities? (1) PL~;~~dTNG ~:~GrL~SS~ON 2 JU.vB 1977 PL,~NNING COi%~II SSIGN • 2 JUNE 1977 P AGr~ 2 a Also, are they successful? Three other. facilities were nam and he was told they were successful. Antolik asked, ' ~~the se facilities, do you con cider them better. than a fo stet home? He was told that there axe different types of youngsters--for some, a foster home is the answer--for many others, a shelter "using a process of group therapy, not p~ychol- ogical care,' experiencing therapy on a one-to-one basis, also--ar'~d counseling--produces good results+~. Sande wanted to know "does the County see. your programs and approve. them"? "State, mainly, is concerned. There is State licensing, snd they see that your program i s as you .said you were going to do. n ~ntolik wi shed to know "what i s the maximum nu.*aber of children you will have at one ti.~ne'~7 It is .planned to have a maximum of twenty for shelter care and twenty for treatment care. AAsmus asked about. expansion plats. planner wanted to know "will you have contracts wit'" .other counties"? "Dakota, primarily", was the reply. How are. you paid? nr~; are .paid per diem Campbell asked, "how do you keep the children on the grounds? There Trill be no fence.' "No locks, either. Tnle will have enough staff to know where the children are at all times, and an active program. " Spande-- "what guarantee can you give that these children. will not create problems here."Z "'mould children attend school in Lakeville'? "That is apossibility--'but it is also .possible to provide educational. facilities within the center.: ' about guarantees--sve can not.give guarantees that children will not walk away,. sometimes. We do have a lot of experience (spea~ser has also been a foster parent), .and with that experience comes the recognition that there are no guarantees.'` 'r~]hen asked about staff,: the reply was that .the State requires at least one staff person for every ten children.. An additional requirement is that you must have awake staff axound the clock. R. -ifnutson, '7 believe what they are looking for is whether this body and Council. is receptive to their application. treatment center and. child case shelter would require a text= amendment to the ordinance and a-conditional `use permit". ,Each member was asked:. to comment: ~smus was not in favor of locating this facility in an industrial park, but I do support the concept; Jo j ade does not approve the industr.aZ park location,. but does support the concept; Lutgens does favor the indus- trial park, because peopple would oe so against the facility in-another locaton1 Campbell does. support the concept and WOUld oe in favor of a text amendment' and allowed in an industrial park; Spande thought the facility. was necessary and should` belong in an indus- trial area rather than a commercial, because it could be "policed" getter; r~ntoliK feels largely' as John Asmus, but believes it would better be located in an industrial situation than a commercial one . He .feels more .information is needed on the whole thing; and, gazei is in favor of, the concept very much. He would be agreeable, if given an alternative. Asnus asked how large an area they planned to build. their center? 5-acre location, was thee answer. Spande would like all types of reports from`..everyone--police, school officials,' building plan, etc. Campbell asked the Commission be furnished with six more copies of the information brochure they had submitted. The_L'Chaim Human cervices concept will be an agenda item for June,l6th. ' D. Tatge, Natural Res+burcesCommittee chairman, spoke of establishing aline of communication between his Committee :and the planning poly--a member' of NR will attend Planning meetings, and Planning members-will be welcome at NR meetings, if they care to attend. He spoke of an. immediate concern of NR--dumping and land development in bads.. waters of Qrchard Lake, east of` the viaduct.. His Committee has written a resolution ttS attem.pt'to meet this problem, also having written a letter to DNR, which so far has not been answered, to their knowledge. Inspector. D. Goodermont said he had been told that the landowner involved had received a letter from ~R, telling him to remove the materials which had been dumped here. The property owner had spoken to Mr. Goodermont about building a nature center here. recommendation is made to Council that they send a letter to the ,oioperty owner here, and also to DNR, of possible violations connected with this lake property. - D. `Licht explained the time .stages, particularly the 30-day reviewal time by Council, in the proposed `amendment to the planned Unit Development ordinance. There are no' ob sections'' to the P'UD amendment proposal from the planning Commission. 77.6b Motion to adjourn ,the meeting was made by ~ntolk, seconded by Sande. Motion carried. Respectfully submitted, L._ Hazel, .Secretary mek • (2) pLA:~NINu CCMMLSSTON 2 .JUNE .1'777