HomeMy WebLinkAbout11-17-77 LAKE~TILLE PLANNING CON~'lI~N 1~1EETING MINUTES
THURSDAY 8:00 PM 1'? NOVEMBER 1977
MUNICIPAL BUILDING AT~?T.AKF: INDUSTRIAL PARK
The meeting began at 8:00 PM when Chairman W. Campbell called the meeting to order.
Answering roll call were Campbell, Antolik, Spade, and Asmus. Lutgens and Hazel
were absent. Alsa present were Attorney R. Knutson and Planner D. Licht.
77.133 Asmus made the motion and Antolik seconded, approval of the minutes of the
meeting held November 3rd. Voting"aye" were Antolik, Spande, Asmus and
Campbell. Motion carried.
77.131+ Antolik motioned, seconded by Asmus to close the hearing on the request of
T. Vucin~vieh for a variance for a front yard setback. (R. Knutson had
attested earlier that this was a legal public hearing. Voting "aye" were
Spande, Asmus, Campbell, and Antolik. Motion carried.
Mr. Vucinovich had stated that the reason they are requesting a variance was that they
plan to remodel their home and garage. The front entry they would like is the reason
for the variance.
77.135 Asmus and Spande moved and seconded a motion to approve the re uest for
variance by Thomas Vucinovich for a front yard setback at his home located
in Park Terrace 1st Addition, 8420 207th Street West. Voting "aye" were
Asmus, Campbell, Antolik, and Spande. Motion to recommend approval carried
and Mr. Vucinovich was asked to attend the Council meeting on Nov. 21st,
next Monday evening.
Mr. Charles Wren was present to explain his request to move a concrete-block building
frnm rear of Gephart Furniture, Inc. to his property at 8520 20gth Street. Mr. Wren
stated that he had only found out within the past few hours that he would need to
obtain the signatures of property owners within 300 feet of this address signifying
their approval. He believed he would be able to do this without any question.
77.136 Motion by Spande-Asmus to recommend approval of the moving of theconcrete-
block building to X520 20gth Street, subject to Mr. rG~Ten s getting the
consent of the neighboring property owners by next Monday's Council Meeting,
November 21st. Voting "aye" were Campbell, Antolik, Spande, and Asmus.
Motion carried.
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k Mr. Bailey Seida, representative of Harry S. Johnson Co., was present to discuss plans
~ ~~~~~t 64r westlofing two tracts of land--one is 140 acres in content, Lying north of Co Rd
35w, approximately one mile, and the other is 70-acre piece lying south
of Co Rd 64, somewhat southwest of the larger piece of land. The land is owned by a
group of five, with Dr. Gary Jacobson and Mr. H. Johnson being present this evening.
The property is laid out in 5-acre lots. It is thought that most of the prospective
owners will also own larger animals, principaly horses. No curb or gutter is proposed
for these streets. The streets, themselves, are proposed to be 50 feet wide, instead of
the customary b0 feet. The chief reason for this is that most of this area is heavily
wooded and they would like to keep the trees for ascetic and ecology values. However,
20-foot easements on each side of these roads is proposed, giving a q0-foot road in the
future, if it should ever become necessary. Meantime these easements will provide a
place for horse owners and bicyclists to ride.
• The "exception" on the larger tract of .land is the property of Bob Clark. Lot 1 on the
70-acre piece is the Jacobson homesite.
Principal question raised by Planner Licht was "can these 5-acre lots sustain on site
sewer systems, so the City does not become liable to run sewer system to them?" Apiece
of advice was to "take easements, otherwise you get maintenance".
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Mr. Seida used the term "agriculture area, but estate housing" is planned. No street
lighting is propased.
J. Asmus asked about canting the lot lines on NE corner of the 140-acre tract to alleviate
the pond problem. The planner replied that this has been tried unsuccessfully in several
instances and he would not recommend it.
Chairman Campbell said it seemed that the Committee does not foresee any special hang-ups
• but they would like to know the use of the land, in the future planning, for the "excep-
tion" area. This proposal will come before NR on Dee. 6th, and P & R on Dec. 7th.
Mr. Gary Stinar and architect's representative were present to discuss plans of members
of St. John's Lutheran Church to add classrooms to their present bui~.ding located on
the SE corner of Holyoke Av. and 210th St. Property acquisition has given them 86
spaces now, more than the 75 that is shown on site plan.
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There are three building~n this property. There is a no~onforming use that results.
D. Licht stated that both he and Steve Ryan had worked hard and diligently to find an
answer to this problem to favor the building committee. Their thought that a variance
hearing should be held was explained. "Reduction of the non-conforming use of the land
. is the key" to the situation, was stated by the Planner. A preference that something be
moved off the site was expressed. Also if this was done, it would provide 14 more parking
spaces. The building committee was advised to file an application for variance proceeding:
77.13? Spande and Asmus motioned to continue the hearing on the request of Julianne
Palm for a special hgme occupation ermit to teach dancing lessons in her
home at 16+62 Genesee Court, Valley Park, until next meeting. Voting "aye"
were Antolik, Spande, Asmus, and Campbell. Motion carried.
77.138 Asmus and Spande motioned a continuation of public hearing on the proposed
preliminary plat of Airlake Industrial Park 2nd Addition until the first
meeting in February. This was done upon the request of the developer to
allow him time to fulfill some of the requirements. Voting "aye" were Spande,
Asmus, Campbell, and Antolik. Motion carried.
The Comprehensive Plan recommendations by Natural Resources Committee and review of
Energy Section of Comprehensive Community Profile were examined.
77.139 Motion by Campbell, seconded by Spande to recommend g~,~P.nj;aneP of Energ3r_
Section Addentum. Voting "aye" were Asmus, Campbell, Antolik, and Spande.
Motion carried.
Shoreland Management was discussed, particularly with reference to that part of Lake
Marion lying west of 35W. This deals with revisions suggested by the'NR Committee.
It is identified by File No. 336.17, dated 17 November 1977•
• No. 1, dealing with the suggestion to reclassify the western end of Lake Marion, that
part which lies west of 35W, from "recreational", to "natural environment" wa& di~,ussed.
The Planner explained what the differences were, in terms of development measurements.
77.1+0 Spande and Antolik moved and seconded to recommend approval of No. 1 of File
No. 336.17,. dealing with the reclassification of western Lake Marion to
"natural environment. All members voted "aye". Motion carried.
No. 2, File No. 336.17, suggestion to revise the definitions of Recreational Development
and Natural Environment Public Waters to include a more elaborate explanation as to their
use, was discussed.
77.141 Spande and Campbell motioned that above paragraph "be not pursued, because of
running a hazard with State established definitions". All members voted "aye".
Motion carried. (No 2--disapproval)
No. 3, File No. 336.17, dealt with language suggested to more clearly express concern for
wildlife. The Committee did feel that adequate regulation of shoreland development would
protect wildlife as well, in the long run, or the end result would be the same.
77.1+2 Campbell and Spande moved and seconded to leave No. outlined in the pre-
ceding paragraph, "as is, and make no changes". All members voted "aye".
Motion carried.
No. IF, File No. 336.17, revision of maximum building height from "stories" to 30 feet,
discussion resulted in the following motion,
77.1+3 "recommend that change in wording regarding maximum building heights be
changed to 30 feet", by Spande, seconded by Antolik. All members voted "aye".
Motion carried.
An examination of subdivision ordinance suggestions and proposals was the next agenda
item. These are File No. 3~3 .17, dated November 17th, NR Committee suggested amendments,
and File No. 336.25, dated November 17th, response to NR's suggestions.
Agreement was found in definitions of soils, adding words "wetlands, bonding areas to
Page 3, Section 3, Subdivision J--and "wetlands" substituted for "marshes" on Page 12,
Section 6, Subdivision B 2 f. The words °'wetland, ponding area" are agreed to be added
to Page 18 Section 7. "Design of sediment control measures" wordage to Page 15, Article
J is agreed.
• It was thought that "development agreement specifications" would suffice, rather than
"60 day limitation on Page 22, Section 7, Subd. E. The word "practical", rather than
"possible" is suggested for Page 22, Section 7, Subd E, NR's suggested addition of Article
6. NR°s suggested Article 7 was agreed, an this same page. Page 23, Subd F & G were
rewritten by both NR and Planning. A comparison would be too lengthy to add to these
minutes.
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77.14 Motion by Antolik, seconded by Asmus, to recommend we adopt amendments to
proposed subdivision ordinance known as 336.25, dated November 17, 1977.
Voting "aye" were Campbell, Antolik, Spande, and Asmus. Motion carried.
77.145 Asmus motioned, seconded by Spande, to redommend to Council approval of the
complete proposed subdivision ordinance, includes the amendments outlined in
preceding motion. Voting "aye" were Antolik, Spande, Asmus, and Campbell,
Motion carried.
There was a question concerning Resolution, dated November 7th, regarding the development
and issuance of building permits in the City, particularly the last paragraph. The answer
was that it was. done to comply with suggestions from Metro Council
?7.146 Motion to adjourn the meeting was made by Antolik and Asmus. Motion carried.
Respectfully submitted,
Tarry Hazel, Secretary mek
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