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CITY OF LAKEVILLE
PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING
December 12, 2001
ITEM #1. Call to order.
The meeting was called to order in the Lakeville City Hall Council Chambers at
6:05 PM.
ITEM #2. Roll call.
Present were Committee Members R. Boldus, L. Lulf, H. Lovelace, J. Berg,, J.
Volimas and K. Manias. Also present were Parks and Recreation Director Steve
Michaud and Recording Secretary Pat Vinje. Unable to attend was P.
Messinger due to a commitment at her employment. Also in attendance were
Mayor Robert Johnson; Assistant to the City Administrator, John Hennen;
Members of the Environmental Affairs Committee including W. Rosselit, T.
Goodwin, J. Kline, D. McManus, C. Skeps; Barb Moeller, Environmental
Resources Coordinator and Recording Secretary, Karla Hartmann.
ITEM #3. Approval of Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee
minutes of November 14, 2001.
The minutes of the November 14, 2001Parks and Recreation Advisory
Committee meeting were discussed. There were no additions or corrections and
the minutes were approved as printed.
ITEM #4. Review and discuss proposed Park, Recreation and
Natural Resources Committee goals, responsibilities and membership.
Mayor Johnson addressed the Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee and
the Environmental Affairs Committee concerning the merger of the two
committees. This proposal had been considered in the past. The Mayor
outlined the facts behind establishing the Parks, Recreation and Natural
Resources Committee. The process of merging the two committees would be
advantageous with respect to one committee with similar goals combining the
expertise of all members. The newly formed committee would include nine
regular members plus one alternate member. The Mayor offered to answer any
questions from the members.
Steve Michaud, Parks and Recreation Director, spoke of the process of
conducting Park, Recreation and Natural Resources Committee meetings. The
environmental affairs items would be added to the agenda, and the process
would transition as it progressed.
Q - EAC, Rosselit: Would review of plats and plans regarding wetlands, tree
preservation, etc. continue?
A - Mayor: The plan for this is modification using the expertise of staff. There
would be a phase out of the intensity of reviews due to facts being presented to
the committee.
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Q - EAC, Skeps: The committee representatives, as citizens, should be
involved in the review process.
A - Mayor: Additional information can always be provided upon inquiry.
Q ? EAC, Goodwin: Staff currently presents wetlands, preservations, etc. Will
this process continue as it has been?
A ? Mayor: Not necessarily in depth due to the addition of the staffing of the
Environmental Technician. Questions may always be addressed. Duties of the
Environmental Affairs Committee are being incorporated into the Parks,
Recreation and Natural Resources Committee, they are not being eliminated.
Q - EAC, McManus: Will wetlands plans be presented to the committee in
addition to park plans?
A - Mayor: If the plans meet the standards, there is no need for review.
Q - EAC, McManus: If the wetland plans are not coming to the committee on a
routine basis, the committee will need to ask the questions.
A - Mayor: There is no need to bring forth a plan if it meets the ordinance
requirements.
Q - EAC, McManus: It is felt there is a need for review by the committee to ask
the developer to go the extra mile.
A - Mayor: No need.
Q - EAC, Rosselit: Even though staff does an excellent job, they need
motivation to go the extra mile.
A - Mayor: If ordinance requirements are met, there is no need to bring outside
issues to the committee.
Q - EAC, Kline: The size of the committee is questionable. Ten members (nine
regular and one alternate) seems like too large of a group to deal with. The
advisory committee reports to the City Council. How was the number of ten
members chosen?
A - Mayor: It is the intent to preserve as much of the Environmental Affairs
Committee as possible. The possibility exists of decreasing the size of the
committee in the future. The goal is to preserve the expertise of the committees.
Q - EAC, McManus: How will the members be chosen?
A ? Mayor and John Hennen: EAC members should send a letter to the Mayor
at City Hall by Friday, December 21, 2001 if you want to be considered.
Q - EAC, McManus: If you take all seven Parks and Recreation Advisory
Committee members plus two Environmental Affairs Committee members, that
diminishes the Environmental Affairs Committee.
A - Steve Michaud responded, The Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee
has six members plus one alternate member. The seventh position was vacated
when Mr. Larson went to the Planning Commission as an alternate.
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Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee member, R. Boldus, stated the
streamlining of the committees will cut away duplication of efforts and time and
assist processing of plats in a timely manner.
Q - P & R, Boldus ? As a committee, will we still review plats, environmental
issues, etc.?
A - Mayor: One combined committee will address these issues.
Q - P & R, Volimas: It appears there were to be changes to the Environmental
Affairs Committee with the addition of fulltime staff, Environmental Technician.
A - The technician will perform reviews of plats and plans.
Q - EAC, Rosselit: Does the City Council require some action from the
committees?
A - Mayor: It is recommended to seek a motion to support the restructuring of
the committee.
Q - EAC, Goodwin: Will Barb and Steve jointly run the meetings?
A - Mayor: Steve may have a major role. This has not been discussed.
Q - EAC, McManus: Will plats be presented to the committee?
A - Mayor: No developers will be present at the meetings. Steve will present
the plats. At times a plat can be simple with only a cash contribution.
Engineering and Planning reports are available in the packets. It is suggested
the Environmental Affairs Committee agenda items will be included on the new
committee agenda. Staff will make recommendations to the committee. The
base work on plats is done by staff before it reaches the committee level.
Q - EAC, Rosselit: Are the committees incompatible?
A - P & R, Michaud: No, just a change in the committees.
Steve Michaud added Pat Messinger, Parks and Recreation Advisory
Committee member, supports streamlining of the two committees and looks
forward to the Environmental Affairs Committee expertise.
Q - EAC, Goodwin: Implication of the Environmental Affairs Committee is to
address environmental issues and it seems like the members role will be
diminished on the new committee.
A - P & R, Boldus: The committee currently examines the scope of land and
environmental conditions.
Q - EAC, McManus: Will there be no access to developers? Will Steve be
presenting the plats to the committee?
A - Mayor: Developers will not necessarily be present due to the reports
containing necessary information.
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Steve Michaud, Parks and Recreation Director asked Barb Moeller,
Environmental Resources Coordinator, if details of plats are discussed with the
developers?
Barb responded, developers and engineers are present at the meetings to
answer any questions.
Comment ? EAC Committee member, Rosselit, stated the committee has made
changes after discussing with the developer even though staff has reviewed plat.
Comment ? EAC Committee member, Skeps, stated support of the streamlining
process except when the process does not serve Lakeville?s best interests.
Mayor Johnson ? More minds put onto a product develops a better product.
Two different groups at two different times produces fragmented results.
Q - EAC, Goodwin: Issues of builders will not be addressed. They will be
decided in private offices outside of public view. They will become less
important issues due to parks and recreation issues being more important.
A - Mayor: City Council will not allow deterioration of lakes or other natural
resources. With nine members overseeing issues, there is no concern for lack
of quality decision making.
Q - EAC, Goodwin: With respect to ordinances and management plans. The
Environmental Affairs Committee has the spirit of management plans and hope
this can be continued.
A - Mayor: Citizens of Lakeville are on the committee. They are dedicated.
Citizens make a City, not bricks and mortar.
Q - EAC, Rosselit: One member of the Environmental Affairs Committee has
been on the committee with special consideration even though not a citizen of
Lakeville.
A - Mayor: The new Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources Committee does
not allow members who are not residents of Lakeville.
Mayor Johnson ? Lakeville Is growing and changing. Along with the growth,
comes need for change.
01.39 Motion by Lulf,
seconded by Lovelace to recommend to City Council support for
merging the Environmental Affairs Committee and the Parks and Recreation
Advisory Committee into one committee to be known as Parks, Recreation and
Natural Resources Committee.
Motion passed.
ITEM #5. Citizen comments.
There were no citizens present for items not listed on the agenda.
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ITEM #6. Staff reports and summary of current projects.
The Arts Center continues to be a major focus. Staff and members of the
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Arts Center advisory board are planning a trip to the Phipps Center in Hudson,
Wisconsin Friday. This will enable staff to get ideas on how their arts center is
operated. A part-time building attendant was hired at the Arts Center. This
assists with the maintenance of the facility. Also, a second 20 hour per week
position has been tentatively approved.
The warm weather has created a problem with respect to making ice for the
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rinks. The annual goal is to be open for the Christmas break. It takes 5-6 days
of flooding to freeze the rinks.
The Oak Wilt Grant from the DNR is on hold. It is probable any work
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performed to date will be reimbursed but any new work is to be held off.
The warm weather has allowed the maintenance crew to work on outdoor
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projects including the installation of fencing at Ritter Farm Park.
ITEM #7. Review of resolution establishing rules and rental fees for
use of City shelter building rental.
Discussion was held concerning the current policy for rules and rental fees of
City shelter/building rental. The current policy draft included changes to Exhibit
B-Rules and Regulations for Use of City Parks. The changes were reflected in
the draft copy. Example included item #11-dog leash ordinance. The committee
found no reason to change the policy at this time.
01.40Motion by Manias,
seconded by Volimas to recommend to City Council to
approve the Resolution Establishing Rules And Rental Fees For Use of City
Shelter/Building Rental.
Motion passed.
ITEM #8. Review of Park Dedication fees.
Annually, the park dedication fees will be reviewed by the Parks and recreation
Advisory Committee. The tool to guide the determination of fees is the Twin City
Consumer Price Index. This index will be published in late December or early
January, at which time the committee will review the park dedication fees. It is
possible the increase for residential development could increase 4-5%. The
commercial/industrial fees would not change at this time due to the increase in
December 2000.
ITEM #9. Approval of meeting schedule for 2002.
The schedule for 2002 was provided to Parks and Recreation Committee
members. The schedule follows the Planning Commission schedule and is the
first and third Wednesdays of the month with a few exceptions due to holidays or
other events.
01.41 Motion by Berg,
seconded by Lulf to approve the 2002 Parks and Recreation
Advisory Committee meeting schedule.
Motion passed.
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ITEM #10. Unfinished business.
There was no unfinished business to discuss at this time.
ITEM #11. New business.
There was no new business to discuss at this time.
ITEM #12.Announcements.
The next meeting of the Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee is scheduled
for January 2, 2002 at 6:00 PM.
ITEM #13. Ajournment.
The meeting adjourned at 7:40 PM.
Respectfully submitted,
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Patricia J. Vinje, Recording Secretary
ATTEST:
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Pat Messinger, Vice-Chairperson