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Planning Commission Work Session
Thursday, August 3, 2000
Administration Conference Room
Present: Chair Karl Drotning; Commissioners Dave Bellows, Sharon Kot, Bruce
Skipton, Jerry Comer, and Wendy Wulff.
Absent: Commissioner Laurie Rieb and ex-officio member Tim Knutson.
Staff: City Administrator Robert Erickson, Acting Community & Economic
Development Director baryl Morey; Associate Planner Frank Dempsey;
Assistant City Attorney Andrea McDowell Poehler and Recording Secretary
Donna Quintus.
Chair Drotning called the work session. to order at 8:10 p.m.
Acting Community and Economic Development Director Morey stated that the purpose
of the work session was to give the Planning Commission an opportunity to informally
discuss three proposals for Conditional Use Permits recently submitted to the
Community and Economic Development Department staff for review. Each
prospective applicant has been invited to this Planning Commission Work Session to
informally discuss their proposal and gain input and direction from the Planning
Commission regarding their specific request.
Charter Communications Conditional Use Permit Amendment Application
Darrin Helgeson, Technical Manager for Charter Communications, presented plans and
drawings for a proposed expansion to the Charter Communications office building and
revised site plan for the outside storage of satellite dishes at 16900 Cedar Avenue. He
indicated that Charter Communications would like to construct a 7,600 square foot
expansion onto the existing office building for additional office and warehouse space.
In addition, Charter Communications would like to install a new "simulsat" satellite
dish to replace six (6) of the existing nine (9) satellite dishes. currently located east of the
existing office building. The proposed "simulsat" satellite dish measures
approximately 27.7 feet wide by 20 feet in height. The existing satellite dishes measure
11 feet in diameter and are approximately 15 feet in height. Mr. Helgeson stated that
the height of the new satellite dish can be reduced by excavating the satellite location by
three feet. The resulting height would be 17 feet.
City Administrator Erickson noted that the previous zoning ordinance allowed satellite
dishes higher than 15 feet by Conditional. Use Permit (CUP) in any district. However,
the newly adopted Zoning Ordinance does not permit satellite dishes larger than two.
• meters in diameter in a commercial district. The Charter Communications site is zoned
C-3, General Commercial District. Satellite dishes are allowed to exceed two meters in
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diameter in an Industrial District by CUP. According to the new Zoning Ordinance,
approval of a variance would be necessary to allow a satellite dish larger than two
meters in a Commercial District.
By consensus the Planning Commission indicated that the request from Charter
Communications for an addition to the existing office building and the installation of
the oversized "simulsat" satellite dish represents an opportunity to reduce the existing
non-conforming status of the outside storage area. The proposed larger dish will
replace six existing satellite dishes. Charter Communications is proposing to eliminate
the six dishes that are located at the front of the outside storage area which will reduce
the visual impact of the dishes from Cedar Avenue, as well as the abutting residential
neighborhood. The Planning Commission concurred that a CUP Amendment should
be considered in lieu of a variance because the request will reduce the non-conforming
status of the existing site. The CUP Amendment proposal also provides for the residing
of the existing office building with brick and additional landscape buffer to screen the
use from surrounding residential neighborhoods.
Community and Economic Development Department staff will receive a formal CUP
Amendment application from Charter Communications and bring the request. before
the Planning Commission for formal review and recommendation.
Alden Miles Conditional Use Permit Application
Mr. Miles stated that he lives at 12226168 Street West on Lot 2, Block 2, Weisners Lake
Addition which is located in the Shoreland Overlay District for Orchard Lake. Mr.
Miles indicated he is currently in the process of developing plans for the expansion of
his legal non-conforming house. He stated his plan is to construct a 146 square foot
addition onto the southwest corner of his house..The proposed addition will be in
conformance with the side yard and OHWL setback requirements of the Zoning
Ordinance.
Mr. Miles indicated he also wants to construct a stairway from his existing deck down
to the rear yard which would include the construction of a 20 square foot landing for
the stairway. Community and Economic Development Department staff have
determined that the proposed 20 square. foot landing addition and stairs wouldbe
located within the Shore Impact Zone and will be higher than 30 inches above grade.
Therefore, the landing and stairway will require a variance, unless the landing is
removed from the plan and the stairway is placed behind the deck.
The Planning Commission suggested alternative deck landing and stairway designs
that would eliminate the landing and direct the stairway away from Orchard Lake.
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They agreed that the elimination of the landing and. re-directing of the stairway does
not intensify the nonconformity of the deck and removes the need for a variance. A
conditional use permit (CUP) could be supported to allow the property owner to
expand the living area addition as proposed.
Associate Planner Frank Dempsey stated that the property survey indicates a second
driveway access that leads to the lake shore. The Shoreland Overlay District
requirements state that driveways shall meet structure setbacks and shall not be' placed
within Shore Impact Zones. A considerable amount of the existing secondary. driveway
to the lake and lower level garage is non-conforming.
The Planning Commission suggested that Mr. Miles replace the bituminous driveway
portion lying within the Shore Impact Zone with crushed rock. This would eliminate
the impervious surface area of the driveway and decrease runoff into Orchard Lake.
Mr. Miles responded that a hydrologist for the Minnesota Department of Natural
Resources: (DNR) was consulted when they were doing shoreline restoration work. At
that time, the DNR representative stated that hard surface driveways for lake access
were preferred because limestone contaminates the water. Staff was directed to seek
input from the DNR regarding preferred surfaces for lake access. Staff will also request
the DNR to complete an informal survey to identify the existing pervious surface/
impervious surface accesses to the .lake.
Community and Economic Development Department staff will receive a formal CUP
application from Mr. Miles and bring the request before the Planning Commission for
formal review and recommendation at a future meeting.
Craig Manson Conditional Use Permit Application
Mr. Craig Manson presented his survey and construction plans for a proposed addition
onto his legal non-conforming house located at 19839 Jersey Avenue. Mr. Manson
stated he is proposing to construct a second floor addition onto his existing single story
house and to replace an existing deteriorating deck on the lake side of the house.
Community and Economic Development Department staff have indicated that a
conditional use permit (CUP) for the addition can be supported. However, staff has
stated that the replacement of the deck as it exists would require a variance and they
could not recommend approval of a variance because the criteria for undue hardship is
not met.
Mr. Manson. stated he is not willing to remove the approximate 6 to 7 feet of the width
• of the 13-foot wide. deck to meet the setback from the Ordinary High Water Level
(OHWL) for Lake Marion as recommended by staff. He requested input from the
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Planning Commission for alternatives that might be pursued that would be more
agreeable to him, as well as the City.
Associate Planner Frank Dempsey indicated that Mr. Manson s property is located in
the Shoreland Overlay District for Lake Marion and the Zoning Ordinance requires a
75-foot setback from the OHWL. However, the Zoning Ordinance allows setback
averaging to determine a permitted setback. The average minimum setback from the
OHWL of the two houses abutting Mr. Manson s property to the north and south, the
minimum setback from the OHWL was estimated to be between 61 feet and 68 feet
from the OHWL. This eliminates the need for a variance for the house addition, but
does not allow the deck to be reconstructed unless it is brought into conformance with
the Zoning Ordinance or a variance is approved.
Planning Commission members suggested an alternative deck design that would
reduce. the non-conforming status of Mr. Manson s deck. The Planning Commission
asked if Mr. Manson would be willing to reduce the width of his deck by approximately
3 feet and relocate the existing stairway to the south side of the deck. They agreed that
the reduction of the deck width and relocation of the stairway does not intensify the
S nonconformity of the deck and removes the need for a variance.. A CUP could be
supported to allow the property owner to expand the living area addition as proposed.
Mr. Manson indicated his willingness to pursue the redesign of the deck with his
contractor as recommended by the Planning Commission.
Community and Economic Development. Department staff will receive a formal CUP
application from Mr. Manson and bring the request before the Planning Commission
for formal review and recommendation at a future meeting.
The work session was adjourned at 9:55 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
onna Quintus, R cording Secretary