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PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING
JANUARY 18, 1995
ITEM # 1 Call to order.
The meeting was called to order in the Lakeville Council Chambers by
Chairperson Illa at 6:00 PM.
ITEM #2 Roll call.
Present were L. Lulf, C. Wanless-Sobel, K. Illa, J. Larson, A. Raymond and P.
Messinger. H. Lovelace arrived later. Also present were Park Director Steve
Michaud, City Administrator Bob Erickson, Environmental Engineer Todd
Blomstrom, City Attorney Tom Scott, Consulting Engineer Jim Norton of SEH,
and recording secretary Judi Ryan.
ITEM #3 Minutes of January 4, 1995.
The minutes of the January 4, 1995 Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee
.meeting were discussed. There were no additions or corrections and the
minutes were approved as printed.
ITEM #4 Citizen comments.
There were no citizens present for items not on the agenda.
Chair Illa suggested that Item # 5 be delayed to accommodate citizens present
at the meeting.
ITEM #6 Consider request from Southern Cruzars Car Club to hold.
Classic Car Show at Antlers Park on July 8, 1995.
Gene and Mary Hokenson were present representing the Southern Cruzars
Car Club. Committee members had received a request from the car club to
hold an event similar to the one held last year in conjunction with Pan-O-
Prog. Committee also received a memo from Recreation Supervisor Renee
Brekken which stated considerations for approval of the request which would
minimize any conflicts with the Pan-O-Prog Run which is scheduled for
earlier the same day. Mr. Hokenson stated the Car Show would be similar to
last year, with possibly one more category. The show drew 180 cars last year;
the group is hoping for 200 this year. They would like to start setting up their
registration tent earlier this year, possibly at 8:00 AM, to eliminate the delays.
they experienced last year. Mary Hokenson stated they will work with Pan-O-
Prog to line up food vendors. The cars will again be required to use protective
• pads under them to prevent turf damage.
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Staff will review last year's event evaluations to determine if any changes need
to be made and develop a list of requirements similar to last year's.
95.03 Motion was made by Messinger, seconded by Lulf, to recommend City Council
authorize the Southern Cruzars to hold a Classic Car Show at Antlers Park on
July 8, 1995. The event sponsors will work with Parks and Recreation
Department staff on logistics so that both scheduled events will run as
smoothly as possible.
Motion passed.
ITEM #8. Review North Park water tower relocation proposal.
Jim Norton from the engineering firm SEH was present to introduce
alternative Sites #4 and # 5 for the water tower to the Parks and Recreation
Advisory Committee. He began by giving a brief synopsis of what has taken
place to date with the siting of a water tower for this area. On November 2,
1994 Mr. Norton came to the Parks and Recreation Committee meeting and
identified Site #2 at the southwest end of the parking lot at North Park as their
recommended location for the water tower. At that time the tower was
• planned to be a 1-million gallon hydropillar with storage space in the tank for
park maintenance equipment. The proposal included improvements to the
parking lot including blacktopping, striping, curb and gutter and some
landscaping.
On December 7, 1994 the Parks and Recreation committee was shown a
second alternative, known as Site # 3, which was located closer to the center of
the parking lot at North Park. This alternative involved a pedestal spheroid
tower which also has a 1-million gallon capacity. This proposal was
developed due to some concerns about the design impacts of Site #2. At that
time, committee members recommended approval of Site #3 to the City
Council.
A neighborhood meeting was held on January 5, 1995 following an
informational letter from the City to residents. Residents requested alternative
sites be considered. Following this meeting, SEH identified Site #4 northeast of
the existing park building and Site #5 near the proposed water treatment
plant.
Laurie Giesenhagen, 17252 Idlewood Way, expressed her disappointment to
the committee over the proposed placement of the water tower at any location
• within the park. She feels it goes against the mission statement of the
committee and there are many areas which are undeveloped where the water
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tower could be located so that park land would not be taken. She stated that
many citizens worked on the Land of Amazement and she felt the addition of a
water tower would detract from the park's amenities and beauty.
Chuck Ryan, 16837 Ivywood Court, stated he lives northeast of North Park in
the Crystal Lake area. He feels the addition of a water tower would adversely
impact property values and tarnish the park. He questioned whether land cost
was an issue and whether there were some other locations that could be
considered.
Jim Norton displayed acolor-coded map depicting various elevations in the
area and stated that the tower would be most beneficial if located on the
highest ground possible. He explained that Site # 1 was located west of the
substation on Ipava Avenue. After review of the soil conditions and other
factors, this alternative was discarded as unfeasible. Site #5 is located near the
water treatment plant on Ipava Avenue and 185th Street. Mr. Norton
explained that the City is in need of 3.1 million gallons of additional storage.
With the construction of a 1-million gallon elevated tank, the remaining 2.1
• million gallons will need to be in ground storage. The elevation is necessary to
create adequate water pressure in the North Park area. Site #5 would not
provide desired water pressure and is not an acceptable location. Mr. Norton
stated that from an engineering viewpoint North Park is the best place for the
tank. Mr. Norton displayed shadow drawings for all sites within the park.
Chair Illa stated that the Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee's mission
statement goes beyond the boundaries of parks. Site # 1 would eliminate 30
specimen oak trees as well as create the need for a very large retaining wall.
Shadow drawings indicate that many more homes would be affected if the
tower were placed in that location. This, added to site access and foundation
problems due to soil conditions, diminished this site's feasibility. From a
hydraulic standpoint, if the tower were located on Site #5 water pressure
improvements would not be realized by the neighborhoods which need it
most.
Linda Ryan stated that according to the reports from the engineering company,
the cost was lower to place the tower on Site # 1.
Chuck Albrecht, 16707 Interlachen Blvd., stated he is a new resident .who
moved to the area because of all the amenities parks, schools, etc. He feels
that there must be an option to putting the tower in the park which the City
has not considered.
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Colleen Blume, 16848 Ivywood Court, stated their family recently moved to
Lakeville for the beauty of the area and feels that the City should have more
pride in their parks than to place a water tower in them. She thinks there
should be a better place and suggested the City look at more options.
City Administrator Bob Erickson stated staff had talked to about 30 concerned
residents by phone. He stated he was challenged with completion of a
comprehensive water plan which he worked on for three years with one of the
best consulting firms in the United States. From that research, it was
determined where wells would be placed for the entire City. A water
treatment plant is also currently being planned to remove iron/manganese
from the city water supply. In addition, the Well Head Protection Act
mandates wells be placed as far away as possible from any potential source of
groundwater contamination.
It has been recommended by many experts that the location of the tower be
kept as close to the road as possible. Ipava Avenue will become a major
north/south parkway with increasing traffic levels. The most beneficial
location of the tower has been verified to be between 165th Street and 172nd
Street along Ipava Avenue. An analysis of the shadow lines shows the North
Park sites to be the least offensive and problematic. A survey of metro area
cities shows that many water towers are built in parks and indicates that more
often they are placed on public property rather than private. Mr. Erickson
also had looked into the diminished property value issue and had been
informed that in the City of Woodbury an appraisal was done before and after
the siting of a water tower nearby and no diminution of value was found. Mr.
Erickson stated that City staff is proud of the work which is done with
community planning and that citizen concerns are always part of the planning
process.
Committee member Messinger stated that when the water tower proposal was
first presented, she was somewhat disappointed that it would be placed in the
park but later realized it would best meet the needs of the neighborhood and
community. She feels that Site #4 which was presented this evening is a poor
site. Site #3 which they had recommended approval of at their December 7,
1994 meeting was acceptable. She feels Site #4 would impact park users
more adversely and may possibly create a safety hazard due to shadow impacts
during sports events as people move in and out of shadows during play.
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Committee member Raymond stated that no existing park amenities would be
lost by placing the tower at Site # 3 in the parking area. There is also no threat
to wildlife or natural areas at that site. Members Larson and Wanless-Sobel
agreed that Site #3 is less obtrusive to North Park users than Site #4. Member
Lulf stated that he feels Site #3 is the best for the park.
Chair Illa stated that Site #4 would utilize valuable park space and with
constant activity in the park the site may be more hazardous with public
works vehicles entering further into the park. These issues do not seem as
apparent with Site # 3 and he feels North Park will still be a great park. Bob
Erickson stated that a light blue color with no lettering is being considered.
95.04 Motion was made by Lulf, seconded by Lovelace, that after review of proposed
optional Site #4 and information presented at this meeting, the Parks and
Recreation Advisory Committee stands by their original recommendation for
City Council to approve the location of a water tower on Site #3 at North Park.
Motion passed unanimously.
• Chair Illa thanked the citizens for attending and for their input.
ITEM #5 Staff reports.
Staff reported that the skating rinks are once again in good condition. This has
been a winter of intervals of warm and cold weather which has made it
difficult to maintain good skatable ice.
Staff is working on several grants which, if successful, will use matching
funds from the bond referendum to enhance development.. Grants will be
written for Ritter Farm Park, Juno Trail Parkway, the Youth Athletic Complex
and the Northeast Sector Community Park. Authorization to submit
preliminary applications will be considered at the next City Council meeting.
At the last City Council meeting, the update of the Ritter Farm Park master
plan was approved.
Staff reported that the signed Schenke property purchase agreement had been
received at the attorney's office. This will be the first bond referendum
acquisition to be completed and is part of the property necessary for
construction of the Juno Trail Parkway.
• As a result of the youth forum a survey of 400 youth is scheduled to be
conducted by Decision Resources in the near future. This survey is being
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funded by the City of Lakeville and the Dakota Alliance for Prevention grant
which was received in 1994.
ITEM #7. Review Park and Trail Dedication fee requirements.
A park dedication fee poll of various metro communities was recently
conducted by the City of Plymouth. As a result of that survey there was a
realization that Lakeville is falling toward the lower end of requirements.
Several cities have raised total fees to over $1,000 per lot. Fees in Lakeville
were last increased in 1992 to $650 for parks and $150 for trails. Parks and
Recreation Committee members suggested considering raising the residential
park and trail fees, but leaving industrial/commercial fees at their current
level. Chair Illa stated that Lakeville is most comparable to cities such as
Woodbury and Eden Prairie in growth and development. Committee member
Messinger felt that a total park and trail dedication fee of $1,100 would be
reasonable. Staff will do some further research and place this item on the
agenda for the first meeting in February for consideration..
ITEM #9. Unfinished business.
• Staff informed the committee that Barton-Aschman will be working on design
concepts for a park proposed to be located on the south side of County Road.
64 near Fairfield Business Park. The area is in a search area for a
neighborhood park. The property consists of eight to ten acres and some
wetlands. Staff will keep committee informed as this issue progresses.
Staff continues to work with a neighbor of Wayside Park concerning street
vacations and easements which will be beneficial to both the City and the
adjoining property owner. This effort is in conjunction with the 168th Street
at-grade improvement project. Staff will keep committee informed of this
project.
ITEM # 10. New business.
Committee received a copy of correspondence from a resident of the Meadows
who lives along the trail. The citizen is requesting the City provide a fence
and some landscaping to keep his property separated from the trail. A
mutually agreeable resolution will be worked out in the spring.
ITEM # 11. Announcements.
The next meeting of the Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee is scheduled
for February 1, 1995 at 6:00 PM.
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ITEM # 12. Adjournment.
The meeting adjourned at 8:30 PM.
Respectfully submitted,
ud' h A. Ryan, Reco ing Secretary
ATTEST:
• Kevin P. Illa, Chairperson