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HomeMy WebLinkAbout08-03 • CITY OF LAKEVILLE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING AUGUST 3, 1994 ITEM # 1 Call to order. The meeting was called to order by Chairperson Illa at 7:00 PM. ITEM #2 Roll call. Present were L. Lulf, C. Wanless-Sobel, K. Illa,. and P. Messinger. G. Grenz arrived later. Committee member A. Raymond was on vacation; H. Lovelace was absent. Also present were Recreation Supervisor Renee Brekken, recording secretary Judi Ryan, and several citizens. Park Director Steve Michaud was on vacation. ITEM #3 Minutes of July 20, 1994. Chairperson Illa asked if there were any comments or corrections to the minutes of the July 20, 1994 Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee meeting. Pat Messinger stated that she had contacted staff earlier in the day on July 20th to let them know that she would be tardy but as it turned out, she was unable to attend the meeting due to a scheduling conflict with family. • The minutes were approved as printed. ITEM #4 Citizen comments. There were no citizens present to discuss items not on the agenda. ITEM #5 Staff reports. Committee members had received a lengthy narrative from the Parks and Recreation Director updating them on the status of ongoing projects and other current Parks and Recreation Dept. issues. There were no further comments from staff. ITEM #6 Review and discuss Shady Oak Shores 7th Addition final plat and make Park and Trail Dedication recommendations to City Council. This plat is located west of Cedar Avenue and south of 170th Street and consists of 12 single family residential lots. This is the final phase of development of the Shady Oak Shores preliminary plat approved in 1988. The Park and Open Space System Plan does not identify the need for any parks in the area of this plat. The Comprehensive Trail System Plan identifies trailways along Cedar Ave. east of the final plat boundaries. A trailway has been constructed on the west side of Cedar Avenue adjacent to this final plat. Staff recommended sidewalks be extended along Glencoe Avenue. Glacier Way is identified as a minor collector and as such • is recommended to receive five foot wide concrete sidewalks as well. Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee minutes August 3, 1994 • 94.25 Motion was made by Messinger, seconded by Wanless-Sobel, to recommend City Council accept a cash contribution to satisfy the Park and Trail Dedication requirements for Shady Oak Shores 7th Addition. It is further recommended that the developer be required to extend five foot wide concrete sidewalks along Glencoe Avenue to Glacier Way and install five foot wide concrete sidewalks along both sides of Glacier Way. Motion passed. ITEM #7 Review and discuss Kwik Trip final plat and make Park and Trail Dedication recommendations to City Council. This plat is located on the west side of Cedar Avenue between 170th Street and Dodd Blvd. The application includes a request for rezoning of the property from R-2 to B-4 and a conditional use permit to allow a gas station in a B-4 district. Glacier Way is identified as a minor collector and is subject to the requirement of five foot wide concrete sidewalks on both sides. 94.26 Motion was made by Lulf, seconded by Grenz, to recommend City Council accept a cash contribution to satisfy the Park and Trail Dedication requirements for Kwik Trip Lakeville. It is further recommended that the developer be required to construct five foot concrete sidewalks along both sides of Glacier Way. Motion passed. • ITEM #8 Review and discuss preliminary and final plat of Great Oak Shores Point and make Park and Trail Dedication recommendations to City Council. This plat consists of 11 single family residential lots and is located east of I-35 and south of 185th Street and the Great Oak Shores subdivision on the northwest side of Lake Marion. Application for this plat includes a request for a conditional use permit to allow a five foot front yard building setback reduction on three of the lots and a variance to allow a cul-de-sac with a length greater than 500 feet. .Renee Brekken informed the Parks and Recreation Committee that City Administrator Bob Erickson and Community and Economic Development Director Mike Sobota had met with several residents of Great Oak Shores who had indicated they would be willing to work with staff concerning the location of a proposed trail within the plat. Several alternatives were shown to the committee and the residents who were present. One alternative is to construct the trail within the sewer and water easement along several lots; another option is to possibly relocate this easement closer to the pond and construct the trail at that location. It was stressed by staff that the trail is proposed only to be designated at this time, and is not slated to be constructed until a future time. Committee member Messinger emphasized the importance of properly signing the trail if that is the case. Committee members were informed that the plat had been tabled by the Environment Affairs Committee at their meeting of August 2, 1994 due to an • incomplete tree preservation plan. PAGE 2 Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee minutes August 3, 1994 • Present at the meeting representing Great Oak Shores Joint Venture were Bill Dolan and Jim Sheeley. Mr. Dolan disputed whether the trail should be included in the plat as the trail segment from Great Oak Shores was eliminated from the first phase by City Council in 1988. He questioned the trail's objective, as he felt there was no clear destination and is concerned that it will devalue the lots. Committee Chair Illa stated that the long-term goal is to provide a link. for pedestrian and bicycle traffic completely around Lake Marion. He stated that many people do not think of a trail as a detriment but as an amenity to their property. Committee member Grenz stated that he has a trail in his back yard and considers it an asset. Mr. Dolan mentioned that it may be difficult to move the easement to the location proposed closer to the pond due to topography. Gary Ewald, a property owner in Great Oak Shores subdivision said he and his neighbor were unaware of any future trail going through at the time they purchased their property. He stated they are concerned about maintaining their privacy and are afraid the trail would make the lake more accessible for small children, possibly creating a safety hazard. Mr. Ewald said he had talked to city officials prior to building his home and was told that there was nothing planned for the area behind his home. Chairperson Illa suggested tabling the plat. This would give Parks and Recreation • Advisory Committee members an opportunity to walk the property and take a closer look at the proposed trail locations prior to making a recommendation to City Council. Committee member Messinger stated that she was not aware that the original trail had been eliminated at the City Council level in 1988 and requested staff provide additional information regarding this decision. Mr. Dolan stated the City Council recommended an MPTW along Orchard Trail at that time. Mr. Dolan stated there are no other property owners on Lake Marion with trails going through their back yards. Committee member Grenz discussed the Juno Trail potential parkway which traverses several front yards. Mr. Dolan stated that the developer is willing to give the City an easement for a trail in either proposed location but would prefer if no trail is installed. Jim Sheeley stated that according to the memo from City Planner Daryl Morey, no trail is identified within the plat. Messinger pointed out that the memo goes on to state that the establishment of a trail corridor was recommended by the city's planning consultant, the Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee, and the Planning Commission during their review of the Great Oak Shores plat in 1988. Mr. Sheeley presented the committee with a copy of a recent law report concerning a case in Oregon regarding homeowners and trails. Chair Illa suggested that Great Oak Shores Point be placed on the next agenda for further discussion. 94.27 Motion was made by Messinger, seconded by Grenz, to table the plat of Great Oak • Shores Point and place it on the agenda of the August 17, 1994 Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee meeting for further review and consideration. Motion passed. PAGE 3 Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee minutes August 3, 1994 • ITEM #9 Review and discuss preliminary and final plat of Downtown Second Addition and make Park and Trail Dedication recommendations to City Council. Application for this plat was submitted by Dakota County HRA. The plat consists of one lot, 1.85 acres in size, and is a replat of other parcels of land adjoining the existing Winsor Plaza. The proposal will enlarge Winsor Plaza by 23 living units. The proposed complex is located within the existing Upper 208th Street right-of-way, therefore this street will be vacated from Howland Avenue to the new right-of-way being platted for 208th Street. The redesign of this street will also involve the relocation of the bike trail which currently exists within the land being vacated. Staff suggests the developer be required to reconstruct an eight foot bituminous trail from the middle of its west boundary line to the south plat boundary, then east along the south boundary to Howland Avenue. Lighting to match the proposed lighting for the existing trail to Antlers Park is recommended to be completed during construction of the trail. Due to substantial contributions during Phase One of this plat which were used for the development of Pioneer Park in downtown Lakeville, committee members agreed that the Park and Trail Dedication requirements had been met and surpassed. • 94,28 Motion was made by Messinger, seconded by Grenz, to recommend approval of the Downtown Second Addition plat to City Council for the .expansion of Winsor Plaza. The committee further recommends that the developer be required to reconstruct the existing bike trail around the south side of the site, completing the easterly segment of the overland trail which extends to Antlers Park and further recommends lighting be installed at the time of trail construction. Motion passed. ITEM #10 Ritter Farm Park master plan update review. Committee members received a revised update from Barton-Aschman which included a matrix showing comparable facilities in the south metro area. Renee Brekken had checked with Burnsville Parks and Recreation and found that mountain biking is available at two locations in Burnsville; Terrace Oaks Park West and Buck Hill. Buck Hill's fee is $5.00 daily or $65.00 for the season; they also rent bikes and helmets. Terrace Oaks West Park has amulti-use dirt trail; there is no fee to use this park. Messinger commented on the environmental problems which are being experienced in other areas of the country from mountain bikes. Chairman Illa stated that the committee should formulate a mission statement for the park prior to making decisions concerning each individual sport. The committee also needs to determine how sanctioned activities would coexist. Input from the school district is needed to determine what they feel their responsibility to • the park is. Because of the existing joint powers agreement, ISD #194 is allowed to use park facilities at no charge. It was the opinion of committee members that some funding commitment should be made by the school districts if they are to use PAGE 4 Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee minutes August 3, 1994 the area on a regular basis. It was suggested that instead of cash, some sort of in- kind services .could be donated such as carpentry work by a shop class, or development of environmental curriculum such as displays or an interpretive trail. Illa felt that the revised document was good except that no dollar estimates are shown for the development of suggested facilities. Kevin Ills had been told by Tim Lundahl, environmentalist who conducts programs at Ritter, that the expansion of the ELC would greatly enhance the usability of the park. Of the four alternatives suggested by Barton-Aschman for the park, Alternative Three seems to accommodate the most uses and the most citizens. Chairperson Ilia would like to get an idea of the costs which would be involved with certain development ideas and also find out the difference in cost between expansion of the ELC and the cost to construct a new building. Nancy Haut-Kooper, a Lakeville resident and a Richfield school teacher, prefers the idea of the boardwalk over the floating dock, especially for smooth traffic flow. She stated an outdoor shelter would be more usable for the public and more practical than expanding the ELC. Ms. Haut-Kooper was told that a shelter would be built with funding from the recent park bond referendum. She also stated that she had just. returned from Colorado where she understood that in that area they are experiencing problems with erosion caused by mountain biking. She mentioned that mountain bikes are fast and quiet, a dangerous combination with equestrians. She feels aself-guided, signed interpretive trail in the area would encourage more use by the general public and make it easier for teachers who bring students to the site. Chairperson Ills directed committee to return to the next meeting with specific ideas for a mission statement for the park. Facts need to be laid out before deciding to include or exclude any certain activity at the park.. Committee member Messinger will be on vacation during the next meeting but will send her ideas and comments to City staff. ITEM #11. Discuss budget impact of 1995 beach hour extension. Renee Brekken reported that an additional $3,600 for the season, or $302.00 per week would be needed to keep the beaches open an extra hour each day. She feels that since June and July are typically busier months, it would make sense to leave the beaches open later during those months, then cut back to 7:00 PM again after July 15th, when the crowds start getting lighter. Grenz felt that the lifeguards should make the judgment whether to close or stay open from 7:00 to 8:00 PM based on how many people are swimming. Messinger would like to see the 8:00 PM extension in effect until August 1st. • Staff also brought up the fact that guards now work 7.5 hours per day. Giving them another hour. would mean 1 /2 hour overtime. This was taken into consideration in the budget Staff will also check with the City Attorney for any suggestions or PAGE 5 Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee minutes August 3, 1994 • recommendations he may have on signage or other issues that may be affected by extending hours for a portion of the season. ITEM #12 Unfinished business. Committee member Messinger stated that the soccer practice board have begun to be installed at Parkview Park soccer fields. ITEM # 13 New business Committee member Lulf reported that he had attended the meeting concerning Lakeville's ground water and the fee proposed to be charged to residents. He commented that the presentation was very informative and well done, and citizen opposition seemed to be minimal. ITEM #14 Announcements. The next meeting of the Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee is scheduled for August 17, 1994. ITEM #15 Adjournment. The meeting adjourned at 9:10 PM. Respectfully submitted, Ju ith A. Ryan, Reco ing Secretary ATTEST: 4 Kevin Illa, Chairperson jr • PAGE 6