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PARIS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE MINUTES
SEPTEMBER 15, 1993
ITEM 1. -Call to order.
The meeting was called to order at 7:00 PM by Chairman Illa.
ITEM 2. -Roll call
Present were H. Lovelace, K. Illa, P. Messinger and A. Raymond. L. Lulf
and G. Grenz were not able to attend. Also present were Park Director
Steve Michaud and Recording Secretary Judi Ryan.
ITEM 3. -Minutes of August 18, 1993.
The minutes of the August .18, 1993 Parks and. Recreation Advisory
Committee meeting were discussed, There were no additions or
corrections and the minutes were approved as printed.
ITEM 4. -Citizen comments.
There were no citizens present for items not on the agenda.
ITEM 5. -Staff reports.
Staff .reports were postponed until later in the meeting to accommodate
those present to discuss mountain biking in Ritter Farm Park.
ITEM 8. -Discussion of request to designate mountain bike trails in
Ritter Farm Park.
Several members of the South Suburban Off Road Riders (SSORR) were
present at the meeting. , In the summers of 1989 and 1990 this groupp ran
two successful mountain bike races in conjunction with Pan-O-Prog.
Staff inspected the course after each race and found minimal damage,
even after 400 riders had used the trails. After those races Ritter
became a popular place for mountain biking, but for several reasons
including safety and maintenance it was decided that mountain biking
would not be an allowed use and signage was installed to prevent people
from biking in the area. Staff stated that large groups no longer come
out to the park, however, there are still some riders who ignore the
signage.
Staff had discussed the mountain biking trails at Terrace Oaks Park .with
Burnsville's Park Director, who stated his dissatisfaction with certain
aspects of the trails. Thex have had constant vandalism to the signage,
and without signage there is no control or regulation over .where people
ride. Their signs are constantl beingg replaced and they continue to
attempt to enforce the rules. ~urnsville's Park Director further stated
that damage to the .park has been minimal from the mountain bikers.
Staff concurs with the fact that mountain bikes do not cause any more
problems than horses using the a uestrian trails. It is also felt that
SSORR is a dedicated and dependable group of people who are willing to
assist the park department in rule enforcement and maintenance issues.
Staff stated that with City Council approval he would be willing to try
• a pilot program. He suggested putting the policies and program together
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this fall and winter and possibly opening the facility in the spring.
Issues that need to be addressed include the importance of designated
areas for the sport, being adamant about staying away from any prairie
restoration area and being careful not to inhibit or conflict with wild
flower growth or environmentally sensitive areas. Hennepin Parks has
experienced some problems with the location of their trail in Murphy-
Hanrehan Park and will be changing, the course. They stated that the
mountain bikes have not been a conflicting use in their park.
Staff also stated that the Police Department CSO's and Park Rangers have
two mountain bikes budgeted for next year. This would be a great asset
in enforcement at the park. Messinger feels that for safety issues, the
mountain biking trails should be separate from the hiking trails. Dan
Bale had suggested m his proposal that the trails could be shared with
hikers but not with equestrians.. Some solutions could be an alternate
day use schedule, or use by permit. Staff felt that mountain bikes
should be on the same seasonal use guidelines as equestrians, with
trails only open May through October, weather permitting.
Staff stated that although Ritter is Lakeville's nature preserve, this
may not be a conflicting use and there is .not another location that is
conducive to mountain biking trails. This has become a popular family
• sport and citizens need a place to ride.
Committee directed staff to gather information from other areas which
have experienced the sport of mountain biking in their parks and to meet
with representatives of SSORR to begin to draft policies and enforcement
plans to present to City, Council. Chairman Ilia volunteered to assist
staff in inspecting possible areas in Ritter that would be approrpiate
for mountain biking.
ITEM 5. -Staff reports.
* Quigley-Sime ballfield complex is nearing completion. Having
several days in a row without rain was a real boost to the
construction. Now that it has rained the past few days, they have
not been able to move to Hypointe Crossingg to begin work there. The
playground for Hypointe is scheduled for delivery on September 20th
and if the weather improves, the park should be ready for its
installation.
* Grading in Brackett's Crossing Park is scheduled to start soon.
* Staff inspected the fields at the new elementary school on Jacquard.
A neighbor had called and thought ,the fields were being installed
too close to his backyard. After inspection, staff felt they were
well within an acceptable distance and m accordance with approved
• plans.
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* A grant application is proposed _ to be submitted for funds which are
available for Oak Wilt suppppression. Contingent on Council approval
of the application, $10,0 would be available to assist residents
with costs incurred for vibratory plowing .and trenching to help
deter the spread of the disease. A private contractor would
complete the work, after inspection and approval by the City
Forester.
Various methods of grant fund distribution are being considered,
including some type of a lottery which would reimburse homeowners
for 50% of their costs, up to $500.00. Other equitable methods of
allocation will also be explored. Staff is very concerned about the
spread of Oak Wilt in the city. The vibratory plow method severs
the roots of .the infected trees to prevent the spread of the
disease, which is transmitted by grafting of the roots.
* Staff is also asking for Council approval of a Dakota Alliance for
Prevention (DAP) grant which is being prepared in conjunction with
the Police Department. The application is for $2.,000 to be used to
provide .drug and alcohol free recreational and educational trips and
activities for Lakeville youth in grades 6 through S.
ITEM 6. -Discussion of ballfield pla at Jaycee Park.
Several years ago residents near ~aycee Park experienced noise and
crowds m their back yards with the configuration , of the ballfields,
which at that time were located adJ'acent to their rear lot .lines.
Because of the complaints, the ballfields were turned so the backstops
were on the west side of the park, away from the adjoining neighborhood
lot lines. That eliminated the problem of park users going onto private
property during ballgames, but has created another .problem of kids
hitting balls into the neighbors' backyards. This is not happening
during league play, but .appparently by neighborhood youth who are
challenging themselves to hit tfie ball as far as possible.
"T-Ball Only" signs have been placed on the backstops and the neighbors
have been asked to call the park department or police de artment any
time they have problems, so the perpetrators can be confponted. The
park department continues to receive an occasional coinplaint, however
not at the time the problem is occurring : One resident has expressed a
real concern as to the frequency of balls being hit into their property.
Committee Chair Ilia feels that Jaycee Park is the perfect place for
kindergarten through 2nd grade T-ball and the ballfields should not be
removed from the park system as a result of the abuse of four or five
kids. Other committee members present concurred.
ITEM 7. -Discussion of ballfield problems at Meadows Park.
The ballfield at Meadows Park was installed about three y, ears ago. A
• sign has ,also been placed on the backstop at this park inform people
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that the field is for T-ball only. Recently a neighbor called the park
department to say there was a problem with dust from the field, and that
she thinks the field was installed too close to her house. Another
neighbor has talked to the Park Director about balls going into her back
yard, where there is a pool and a dog. She was concerned about the
safety of children who climb her fence. Neither of these people had
.problems with the field during league play, but only at other times with
older neighborhood youth.
Staff and committee will personally look at both situations., take some
measurements and continue the discussion at another time. It was the
general consensus of the committee that with the shortage of fields in
the park system, .the ballfields should not be eliminated. Possible
solutions could include Park Watch, more distinct signage, and calls to
the Park Dept. or Police Dept. at the time of the infringement. It was
suggested that staff communicate possible solutions to the residents. in
writing and ask for their cooperation m trying to resolve the problems.
ITEM 9. -Review and make recommendation to City Council on .Country
Ponds South 6th Addition final lat.
This is a continuation of the ~ountry Ponds South lat and consists of
22 single family lots. The plat is located west of ~agstaff Avenue and
south of Dodd Blvd. 175th Street is designated as a minor collector and
• will have five foot sidewalks constructed on both sides.
93-31 Motion was made by Raymond, seconded by Messinger, to recommend City
Council approve the Country Ponds South 6th Addition final plat and to
accept a cash contribution of $650.00 per lot park fees and $150.00 per
lot trail fees to satisfy the park dedication requirements.
Motion passed.
ITEM 10. -Unfinished business.
Committee received the .Parks and Recreation Department August monthly
report.
Staff reported that the STS crew has finished the fencing at Parkview
Park. Anew gate will also be installed at that location. The STS has
started working at Valley Lake to prepare the trail for a paving overlay
by the Street Department. Other projects staff would like them to
complete are painting of the hockey rinks and clearing at Cedar
Highlands. Ills mentioned that the Dakota Heights rink may need some
grading to make it more level.
Ilia mentioned that the signs at the North Park trail have really
helped; there have not been any cars parked there durin the soccer
games. Staff received a compliment on the promptness o~ the repairs
that were done to the Land of Amazement.
• Park maintenance staff has been busy pre~aring Ritter, Farm Park for the
"Who Done It" Hike which will be held on aturday beginning at 9:00 AM.
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Committee Chair Illa and Park Director Steve Michaud will meet with
Mayor Zaun and City Administrator Bob Erickson on Thursday to discuss
the establishment of a bond referendum committee.
ITEM 11. -New business.
Planning is underway for the annual Haunted Forest. Committee members
are invited to volunteer their time for this annual fund raiser which
will be held on Saturday, October 23rd.
Committee member Raymond asked about the progress on the trail into the
Goose Lake Conservation Area. Staff stated that the residents are still
reviewing the easement agreements and concept plans.
ITEM 12. -Announcements.
The next meeting of the Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee is
scheduled for October 6, 1993, 7:00 PM, at the City Hall Council
Chambers.
ITEM 10. -Adjourn.
The meeting adjourned at 9:00 PM.
Respectfully submitted,
J Ryan, Re dmg Secretary
Kevin Illa, Chair
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