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HomeMy WebLinkAbout08-01 • CITY OF LAKEVILLE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING AUGUST 1, 1990 The meeting was called to order at 7:00 PM by Chairman Illa. Roll call was taken. Present: Lulf, Lovelace, Larson, Illa, Raymond, Messinger and Grenz. Also present were Park Director Steve Michaud and recording secretary Judi Ringeisen. MINUTES The minutes of the July 18, 19.90 Parks and Recreation Committee were discussed. A correction was made on page 1, 4th paragraph. The Cherrywood Park property was purchased by the city, not given to the city. Also in the minutes from the on-site inspection of Cherrywood Park made prior to the regular meeting, Lovelace was also present at that meeting. The minutes were approved as corrected. ITEM 4 There were no citizen comments. ITEM 5 The item concerning the Park Plaza dedication was removed from the agenda. ITEM 6 Darrell Schneider and Rich Gray from TKDA Consultants were present to offer their concept plans for improvement of the lagoon and former boat launch area near Antlers Park. Darrell Schneider first presented the engineering aspect of the plans. He stated the main issues concerning the lagoon are the storm sewer outlet, neighborhood safety, aesthetics and the sedimentation from storm water entering Lake Marion. Even though the lagoon was man-made in the 1940's, the Dept. of Natural Resources will not allow it to be filled in or otherwise eliminated. Gravel and storm sewer water are washing into the lake. TKDA suggests the sides of the lagoon be graded to a 5/1 slope, similar to those of the boat ramp planks which are still there. This would also make the lagoon more visible from the beach. The lifeguards have trouble seeing the lagoon, although it is not their responsibility to guard. For safety purposes they do walk over and ask people to leave the area. The major issue is to modify the storm sewer drainage as it now exists in order to keep gravel and other sedimentation out of the lake. One way to do this is to bring the pipe down to as low a • level as possible and create a grouted rip rap area around it. Sedimentation basins would be created to collect sediment before it enters the lake. Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee meeting • August 1, 1990 Page -2- Rich Gray, TKDA's landscape architect, will work on beautification of the project when the engineering is complete. He discussed the continuation of the retaining wall and the addition of some low plantings to screen. the area. Winter access to the lake needs to be maintained for the fish houses and other vehicles coming in and off the lake. The concept of bringing the access road around the lagoon and entering the lake from the south side of the lagoon on the beach was proposed. The pedestrian trailway would double as a roadway since the seasons of use would not conflict. Mr. Gray recommended a 6" barrier curb be installed to define the roadway on 201st Street, which would also make the area look neater and have a better defined roadway. The speed and safety issues are great in this area. Messinger stated her concerns that people would not follow the new roadway, but would try to cut across the lagoon. Staff said "thin ice" signs would continue to be installed to warn people. The lake access road would not be wide enough for two cars to meet. Richard Ringeisen, 20085 Italy Avenue, stated his major concerns are safety, the topography of the land, aesthetics of the lagoon and the stagnant odor which comes from the area at this time of • year. He has also encountered problems with snowmobiles going on and off the lake at high rates of speed and the difficulty of seeing them at sunset. He has had his property landscaped with knolls and ridges in order to protect his house and is in favor of redirecting the traffic around the lagoon. Pete Smith, 20075 Italy Avenue, would like to see a stop sign placed as people exit the lake for better safety and traffic control. The question arose as to whether beach sand is an adequate base for cars to drive on. A member of the audience suggested a pebble-type transitional material be used for the roadbed. It would not need to be removed each year if it would be suitable for use in the park area. Mr. Nicholson from the Natural Resources Committee was present and asked if the plan would be brought before the Dakota County Soil and Water Conservation District. Mr. Schneider informed him that the presentation would be shown to the Natural Resources Committee at their next meeting and would also be given to the DCSWCD. . Grenz suggested the lagoon be moved as far to the north as possible to further deter traffic from using the old roadway. Messinger stated she did not agree with that as it would be too close to the Ringeisen property. Staff suggested the lagoon be moved 50-100' south. Grading of the slopes on the south side would cause the • lagoon to spread out in that direction. Lovelace suggested the Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee meeting • August 1, 1990 Page -3- corner of 201st Street at the point of the current bike trail be made wider to better accommodate vehicles pulling trailers. Committee members agreed the area is badly in need of improvements and that preliminary approval be given to concept 1A, including the widening of the corner of 201st St. and showing the new roadway on the south side of the lagoon. Cost estimates and a funding source will be searched out. ITEM 9 The Cherrywood Park discussion was moved up on the agenda to accommodate members of the audience. A neighbor in the Cherrywood area spoke in opposition of development of the park area and in favor of conservation of the trees and wildlife in the area. Other neighbors reiterated what was discussed at the Parks and Recreation Committee meeting of July 18th. Staff had received one phone call from a resident after the last meeting who was speaking on behalf of a friend who was in favor of the playground installation. Grenz commented that the land was purchased by the city for use by all the citizens. If the neighbors do not care to have anything done with the property, perhaps the city could sell it back to • them. Larson stated that due to a frequent lack of parental supervision at playground sites, he is opposed to installation of the playground near the pond, however, he would like to see wood chip trails and a few benches installed for passive recreation. Messinger also felt that some trails should be installed but is glad to have the opportunity to keep the area natural and accessible. Another resident stated that because it is so wet in the area all the time, a trail may not be feasible. Staff stated that the trail as it is drawn on the concept plan is not necessarily the exact or final trail location. 90.50 It was moved by Larson, seconded by Messinger, not to install a playground structure in the Cherrywood Park area, but to plan and install natural base trails, the location of which will be determined by city staff and the Parks and Recreation Committee. They will work with the neighbors' concerns of aesthetics and conservation in mind. Roll call was taken on the motion. Aye: Lulf, Lovelace, Larson, Illa, Raymond, Messinger Nay: Grenz voted nay because he did not feel the motion reflected the desires of the neighbors. Staff will send a letter off to the neighbors informing them of the Parks and Recreation Committee decision, and stated the project may • not be completed in 1990. Messinger recommended signage to notify current and future residents that trails will be installed at the park. Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee meeting • August 1, 1990 Page -4- ITEM 7 Staff Reports: Staff attended the Dakota County Physical Development Planning meeting concerning the County Road 46 trail designation. There seemed to be a general consensus that this trail will become part of the county system, however it has not been determined whether to install the trail on the north or south side of County Road 46. Justifications for having the trail on the south side include having only one city involved in maintenance contracts for the trail and ease of installation topographically. The park directors from Apple Valley, Burnsville and Rosemount are also supportive of the south side location. Staff notified committee that the aeration system grant for Lake Marion which was applied for in 1989 has been approved at 1000 funding. The city will be receiving an aeration system valued at $28,000.00 and will be responsible for maintenance and installation costs. Staff is awaiting final written notification. ITEM 8 Staff reviewed the 1991 park dedication fund budget with the committee. It was felt that the Orchard Lake Beach parking lot should be included since the timing was good for having it done at • the same time as the Judicial Road upgrade. There are several improvements to be made for North Park and Foxborough for the LAA athletic programs. The backstops need to have hoods installed, which will prevent balls from going over the backstops and being lost in the woods and the creek. Some netting has already been purchased to correct a similar problem at Aronson Park and standards are being priced for installation. Grenz asked about the parking lot and bike trail fencing at North Park and was told it would be a future consideration. Improvements are budgeted for the warming houses at The Meadows, Dodd Park and Parkview. The Aronson Park field 3 & 4 lighting project will cost several thousand dollars. Cost estimates are also being requested for lighting of soccer fields and football fields. Staff discussed the exploding registrations for football and soccer and some possible alternatives for field availability. The LAA football league will need four fields and will play before dark this year. They will not be using lighted fields 1 and 2 at Aronson .Park this year due to the difficulty of turf renovation after fall football and before softball in the spring. Other items the committee discussed for the park dedication fund included a hard court basketball surface at Foxborough Park, and the idea of decorative lighting fixtures on some of the walking trails such as Bunker Hill Park, Valley Lake Park and Oak Shores. Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee meeting August 1, 1990 Page -5- The trail fund was also discussed. Staff would like to include any unfinished segments or connections into 1991 trail projects and asked committee for any suggestions. The areas of 167th Street and Gerdine Path, and Flagstaff to Pilot Knob were mentioned. There is also a segment on 175th Street going into Dakota Heights Park which needs to be finished. Grenz suggested a trail through Fairfield Park, if purchase of the property can be negotiated with the landowner. Grenz would also like to see the culvert under Dodd be replaced for a more passable one. Messinger asked about park accesses that may need to be paved, such as the easterly access to Foxborough Park. Staff reported that the on-street trail striping project was completed today as was the 172nd Street sidewalk project. ITEM 10 The maintenance division is accomplishing many projects with the nice weather. Some problems have been encountered with sand in the septic system at Foxborough Park. The crews have now installed a special filter system which should alleviate the problem. • The grass at the parks is growing very fast. Some areas need to be mowed more than once a week. The crews are keeping up as well as possible. Recreation programs are-going well. Many programs are coming to the end such as Summer Playground and Kamp Kermit; and many are over such as swimming lessons and golf lessons. Staff is working on the fall brochure, which should be out in about a month. Staff has been receiving many compliments on the parks; the flowers are in full bloom and are really appreciated by the citizens. Messinger also reported she had heard several comments from members of the Rosemount soccer teams relating to how nice the Lakeville park facilities were for the Pan-O-frog soccer tournament. UNFINISHED BUSINESS The South Suburban Riders will make a presentation to the City Council at their second meeting in August. Staff is working with the attorneys concerning the Senior Center roof leakage problem. The building inspector has confirmed that the cause of the problem is substandardly installed shingles. ANNOUNCEMENTS A meeting of the Park Service Areas subcommittee will be held on Wednesday, August 8th at 6:00 PM in the Park Director's office. Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee meeting August 1, 1990 Page -6- The next meeting of the Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee will be preceded by the dedication ceremony of the William J. Alich Tournament Center at North Park which will be held at 6:00 PM at North Park. The regularly scheduled meeting will follow at 7:00 PM in the council chambers. Since there was no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 9:50 PM. Respectfully submitted, t Kevin Illa, Chairman ATTEST: • Pat Messinger, S retary jr •