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PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMNII'I'I`EE MEETING
MAY 2, 1990
Meeting was called to order at 7:00 PM by Chairman Illa. Present were
Lpvelace, Lulf, Larson, Illa, Grenz and Messinger. Raymond had a work
conflict and wasunavailable. Also present were Park Director Steve
Michaud and Recording Secretary Judi Ringeisen.
90.31 Motion was made by Lulf, seconded by Larson, to approve the Parks and
Recreation Advisory Committee minutes of April 18, 1990.
Motion passed.
Ms. Char Dennhardt was present to discuss the equestrian trails in Ritter
Farm Park with the conunittee. She and herneighbors had received letters
from city staff recently informing them that people have been riding in
the park prior to May 1st, the designated legal starting date. Ms.
Dennhardt would like more trail markers installed, along with a sign
stating rules and dates when trail riding is allowed in the park, She
also requested more copies of staff's letter to distribute and post in
several areas of the park and in the neighborhood barns. Ms. Dennhardt
made up a poster of her own with the trail regulations and will post it
along with the letter.
A few people in the area board horses at their barns andit is believed
that it is the boarders who are breaking the rules and not those who live
in the area. The neighbors will make a concentrated effort to make the
rules known to the boarders so everyone does not lose the privilege to
trail ride in Ritter Farm Park.
Ills mentioned that he had been out hiking in the park and had not noticed
any damage, leading him to believe the damage is minimal. Staff will try
putting the rules under the plexiglass on the ski trail sign. The
neighbors will be responsible for having a rules sign printed and
installed at the entrance to the trails from Judicial Road. Park Rangers
will be instructed to issue tickets to those caught riding illegally or
breaking the rules in the park.
Staff discussed several park related items on the May 7th council agenda.
Items include the drug free zone resolution and signs, the archaeological
survey and soil borings at Casperson Park, vending machine contract,
agreement with DARTS on the senior and handicapped transportation, and use
of parks for certain Pan-O-Prog events. Co~runittee received a copy of the
DARTS proposal and the concept was discussed with staff.
The Planning Connnission minutes of April 19, 1990 mentioned the concerns.
some citizens had with road alignments in Country Ponds South. They also
questioned park dedication requirements for the plat and suggested
trailways. Staff will see they receive any information requested from the
park department and the Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee.
. Committee was shown the preliminary. plat of Cherry Ridae. The potential
pathway was discussed and committee concurred with the engineer's recom-
mendation that the pathway proposed for the plat would not be feasible
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because of topography and height of pathway. The pathway could actually
be a detriment to the neighborhood rather than an enhancement.
Committee also discussed the Cedar Glen plat and compared some of the
topography to the Cherry Ridge plat, with slopage that is very steep and
not conducive to a walkway. It was also felt a walkway would not be
feasible in Cedar Glen.
Larson suggested it is still a problem that when people are buying a house
or building one, the developers are not informing them where the trails
are to be installed. He thinks the builders are not being informed by the
developers as they. should be.
There have been some changes in the Homestead Creek 3rd plat since the
conunittee received their information about the plat. The changes reduced
the ntnnber of lots in the plat. The plat has a large area of wetlands,
identified as Outlot C, which staff suggested should be donated for a
wildlife preserve area.
90.32 Motion was made by Messinger, seconded by Larson, to support the original
motion to recorrnnend a cash contribution for Homestead Creek 3rd to satisfy
the park dedication requirements and to further recommend to city council
. that the developers be required to donate Outlot C to the wildlife
preserve with no credits.
Motion passed.
Committee received a copy of a letter written by Building Official Dave
Krings to Windwood Homes regarding trail damage in Chapel Hills. The
trail was damaged during construction of a home and the builder is being
charged $200.00 for repairs.
Staff discussed the success of the official dedication of the "Jaycee
Community Center" in Aronson Park which took place on Tuesday, May 1.
A phone call was received in the Parks and Recreation office from a
citizen informing the city that someone had blocked the spillway out of
Orchard Lake and that blockage had caused the level of the lake to raise
about six to eight inches. Staff inspected the area and contacted the DNR
Regional Hydrologist who is planning to come down on Friday and determine
whether the blockage should be removed.
The Parks and Recreation Advisory subcommittee on the Park System Plan met
on April 25th. Staff showed the entire committee a map which the
subcommittee had worked on which showed road major arteries within the
city along with neighborhood parks and their 1/2 mile service radius'.
The map made it easier for the committee to identify those neighborhoods
which are not served by a neighborhood park within 1/2 mile, or who are
• geographically shut off from a park by a major road barrier. There were
five areas where the shortage of parks is very evident. These areas are:
the West Park area on the west side of 35 W; the Indian Hills area on Dodd
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and 192nd Street; the Stewart Properties area, south of County Road 64 and
east of 35 W; a comm~xnity wide park in the northeast segment of Lakeville;
and a neighborhood park east of Flagstaff and north of 170th Street..
Staff and cotmnittee discussed park service areas. Lakeville service areas
should be between 3/4 to one mile, since it is conceivable that most parks
will be connected by trails in the future. For the time being, co~nnittee
and staff .would like to see the 1/2 mile service radius remain in effect.
Messinger suggested a playground is needed at North Parka Issues concern-
ing the wildlife preserve such as how it is to be secured, management,
etc. will be included in the final report. Committee and staff feel this
will be a good 15-20 year plan, based on projected development. The area
south of the West Park site was discussed as a possible alternate site to
the West Park site for a neighborhood park in that area.
There is still work to be done with the system plan policies and committee
will continue to work on that document and make revisions. A late stormier
date was targeted for completion of the document.
Committee reviewed an ordinance prepared by Roger Knutson concerning
various issues. Ultralight airplanes are banned from landing at Airlake
and would be banned from landing in parks with the passing of this
• ordinance. Staff feels the threat of danger if they were to land in the
parks would be very great to people and property. A question was asked.
whether the airspace above the park is considered part of the park.. Also
the ordinance states single occupant and it was mentioned that sometimes
there can be more than one occupant in these vehicles.
The main purpose of the second section of the ordinance is to include
paint pistols as firearms, making them illegal in City parks and thereby
making it illegal for the game of splat ball to be played in the parks.
The remainder of the ordinance. concerns regulation of City owned public.
lake access sites and would make it illegal for people to abandon their
fish houses on public property after they have removed them from the lake,
among other issues. The question was asked whether having loaded firearms
at public accesses is covered under another section of the city code deal-
ing with firearms. Staff will check with the attorneys for clarification
and have the appropriate wording placed in the ordinance if necessary.
90.33 Motion was made by Larson, seconded by Messinger, to table the ordinance
concerning park activities discussed above in order for staff to clarify
some areas and report back to the conmlittee.
Motion passed..
City staff met with a citizen of the Orchard Lake area today concerning
the at-grade crossing at 168th Street and the County Road 44 viaduct. Mr.
• Kaler is applying for a variance on his property which could affect
adjoining public property.
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Committee and staff discussed the two requests for use of City parks far
Panorama. of Progress events.
90.34 Motion was made by Messinger, seconded by Grenz, to reco~m?end to City
Council that approval be given to Bill Gallagher, representing D.J.'s Tug
of War team, to hold the World Championship qualifying Tug of War contests
at Foxborough Park on July 7, 1990.
Motion. passed.
90.35 Motion was made by Lulf, seconded by Lovelace, to reconnnend to City
Council that approval be given to Larry Olmsted,. representing the
Minnesota Pole Benders, to hold their annual fishing contest from
Casperson Park and boat launch on July 7, 1990.
Motion passed.
The upcoming annual. park tour was discussed. This item will be placed on
the agenda for May 16th and each connnittee member will bring two
suggestions for places they would like to visit on the tour.
Staff reminded the corrunittee of the training seminar which will be held on
Saturday, May 5th from 8:00 AM until noon at the council chambers. The
Arbor Dray celebration is to be held at Aronson Park at 11:00 AM, however,
committee members will still be able to stop at the park when the seminar'
is over and take part in some of the activities.
Messinger commented that the Valley Park area did not get involved in the
city wide clean up day on April 28th. It was suggested that at their
Homecxaners association meeting someone should be delegated to set up
another event and be in change of it.
Staff is looking .into the possibility of filling in the lagoon at the old
Antlers Park boat launch. This is a major hazard for the beach operations
and the neighborhood children and staff and committee feel it is serving.
no useful purpose and should be filled in. Staff will keep in contact
with the DNR concerning this project and keep committee informed.
90.36 Since there was no further business, it was moved by Larson, seconded by
Lulf, to adjourn.
Motion passed. Meeting adjourn~l at 9:15 PM.
Respectfully submitted,
Kevin Ilia, Chairman
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• Pat Messinger, Secretary
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