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HomeMy WebLinkAbout01-03 CITY OF IAKEVILLE PARRS AND RECREATION ADVISORY C~M~IITI~E MINUTES JANUARY 3, 1990 The meeting was called to order at 7:00 PM by Chairman Larson. Present were Larson, Illa, Lulf, Raymond, Messinger and Grenz. Lovelace was absent. Also present were Park Director Steve Michaud, City Achninistrator Bob Erickson, Senior Project Coordinator Jim Potz and Recording Secretary Judi Ringeisen. 90.1 Motion was made by Illa, seconded by Messinger, to approve the Parks and Recreation Advisory Co7rnnittee minutes of December 6, 1989. Motion passed. Under agenda item #4 there were no citizen co~mients which did not pertain to specific agenda items. Several citizens from the Griffon Trail. neighborhood were present to discuss the sidewalk situation in that area. Staff thanked the people for coming and gave a background synopsis of what has happened to date on the proposed project. Several questions had been raised at the last meeting for which staff had researched answers. Concerning responsibilities and warranties, the sidewalks become the responsibility of the homeowners. for maintenance, repairs and snow removal. The life of a sidewalk is normally 20 years and repairs are covered the first year by construction warranty. Sidewalks are not added to the assessed valuation of the property .and are. not an extra tax burden. The liability of the sidewalk is covered under the homeowner's insurance. Staff told the citizens that future average daily trips on the roadway will be approximately 1,100 to 1,500 which will make the sidewalks an attribute to the neighborhood and enhance the values of their properties. Jim Potz, Senior Project Coordinator for the City Engineering Dept. was present to discuss the project with the citizens. He had inspected the properties and discussed setbacks and easements with the citizens. Due to the fact that all the homes are already built at 30' setbacks, the sidewalk will be placed closer to the curb, 5-6 feet behind the curb rather than the normal 11 feet, so that it does not encroach on the yams. This will lessen the slopes and the cost of driveway repair. With the surmountable curb which will be installed on the road project for safety purposes the sidewalk should not be right next to the road. Citizens asked if the sidewalk could be placed directly adjacent to the roadway and were told that this 5-6 feet is needed for snow storage and for street repair. Jim had maps available showing the proposed sidewalk placement and the obstacles which would be encountered. .Citizens requested concrete aprons be installed on the driveways when repairs are made. They were told that this was an allowable State Aid expense. City Administrator Bob Erickson told the citizens that this is similar to other situations in the City where the plats were conceived before the transportation and trail plans were adopted. The trail plan was a reaction to citizen comments in a 1986 survey before the bond referendum. Current problems on the street of sheet drainage and icing are the fault of the existing grades. No solution to this problem seems ` readily available without having significant impact on people's yams. Parks and Recreation Advisory Conunittee minutes January 3, 1990 Page -2- Citizens asked if a 4' sidewalk would be acceptable but were told that it would not meet state standards for a State Aid project. They also asked .about a boulevard beautification project and were told that this would be possible, however the trees should be placed in the people's yards rather than between the street and the sidewalk. This is more attractive, creates a buffer and will not harm the sidewalks as the trees grow. The citizens carrnnented that there is no speed zone posted and were told that no sign automatically means 30 MPH. Grenz suggested a sign off of Cedar Avenue going west to post the speed. The citizens will have another neighborhood meeting and come up with a written proposal by January 12, 1990, so that it can be distributed to the Parks and Recreation Advisory Coitnnittee before their next meeting on January 17th. 90.2 Motion was made by Messinger, seconded by Grenz, to table the Griffon Trail sidewalk issue until January 17, 1990 at which time a rer~rnnendation will be made to the city council. Motion passed. Staff informed the conunittee that the. issue of the Lynwood North sidewalk project had been resolved by a the city council with a decision to stripe the south side of 170th Street as a shoulder. Staff discussed the affect Alma Ritter's death will have on the development of Ritter Farm Park and the Park Dept. There is a single family home and a duplex on the property. The properties are all rented and there have been some recent problems with the heating systemm at the duplex. Staff feels it would be(;~ invitation to vandalism to remove the renters and leave the property empty and feels a caretaker on the property is a good idea to help prevent a bad situation. Staff will have a month to month contract for rental drawn up for the current renters. Connnittee asked about a security deposit from the renters; staff will check on this. It had been estimated that a temporary baffle system for the Lake Marion aeration system would cost $7-8,000. When/if a permanent system is installed, some of these materials could be reused. Steve Michaud and John Hoger attended an aeration seminar at the DNR office in St. Paul which proved to be very informative. Staff will continue to keep the co~nnittee informed on this project. The Orchard Lake .traffic and trail study report was accepted. by the City Council at their January 2, 1990 meeting. Council members made same suggestions and recoimnendations for the area's limited capabilities. Staff would like to take up phase II of the Park and Open Space System Plan this spring. It was suggested to hold public hearings and take suggestions before moving ahead with the project. Some of the specific tasks can be done in-house by interns or assistants this stormier. Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee minutes. January 3, 1990 Page -3- Staff and corrnnttee discussed the priorities of specific Phase II Park and Open Space System Plan tasks and possible funding sources for each. Larson suggested forming a subconnnittee to do a survey of .various other cities for the task of reviewing and updating park policies. The future vision task could also be done in house by getting input from neighborhood meetings. Staff will put together time lines and set up st~bcomrnittees at the next Parks and Recreation cannnittee Ming. Staff discussed the possible upgrade of Highview Avenue and the adjoining Nash Applebaum development. CoYrnnittee was also informed that Cherry Ridge plat, south of Woodbury, has been purchased by Joe Miller and these 69 lots have already been through the preliminary plat phase. Staff informed the committee that he is continuing to make progress on the Ritter Farm Park Conservation Reserve Program. He will keep the committee informed of future progress. Under the Recreation Division, registrations have been very heavy for ice skating and cross country ski lessons. Under other business, Grenz said he thought there were some rocks at the bottom of the Bunker Hill sliding area. ,Staff will have John Hager check on this. Staff has also had some discussions with a landowner who is raving problems with snowmobilers on his property. Some alternate trails have been mapped out, more signage will be put up and hopefully this will satisfy the landowner. A complaint was also received at the Park and Rec. office of snowmobilers using the cross country ski trails at Ritter Farm Park and tearing them up. More signage will also be installed there. Nominations were held for Parks and Recreation Advisory Connni_ttee officers. Kevin Illa was nominated for Chairman, Larry Lulf was nominated for Vice Chairman and Pat Messinger was nominated for Secretary. 90.3 Motion was made by Raymond, seconded by Grenz, to elect the Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee officers as nominated. Motion passed. 90.4 Since there was no further business, it was moved by Messinger, seconded by Raymond, to adjourn. Motion passed. Meeting adjourned at 10:00 PM. Respectfully submitted, ATTEST: Kevin Iha, Chairman Pat Messinger, "Secretary 7r