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PARK AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE MINUTES
FEBRUARY 4, 1987
Meeting was called to order by Chairperson Grenz at 7:Q0 PM. Present were
Lovelace, Lu1f, Grenz, McDonald and Messinger. Anderson had a conflict and
Olmsted was recovering from surgery. Also present were Park Director Steve
Michaud and recording secretary Judi Ringeisen.
87-10 Motion was made by Messinger, seconded by McDonald, to approve the minutes
of the January 21, 1987 Park and Recreation Advisory Committee meeting.
Messinger would like added to the minutes the fact that in their general
discussion it was mentioned that at some point in the future the
possibility exists for a community/teen center to be built in the Valley
Park area, possibly on the Parkview park property.
Councilmember Sindt wishes the statement clarified as to why she had voted
against the bike trail use ordinance. She maintains that the wording
"adequate snow depth" is a vague term as it pertains to potential
snowmobile use of the trail.
Two typographical corrections need to be made on page three of the
minutes. In paragraph six the word "bout" should be "about". In paragraph
eight the word Lake in Valley Lake Beach should be capitalized.
11 Motion was made by Messinger, seconded by McDonald, to approve the minutes
as corrected.
Motion passed.
Larry Lulf has been officially instated as a member of the Park and
Recreation Advisory Committee. Councilmember Harvey abstained from voting
because no formal interview was conducted with Mr. Lulf. Larry will be put
on the February 17, 1987 council agenda in order to be introduced to the
Mayor and City Council members.
Item number three was the Park Director's report. An architectural
proposal for the multipurpose arena from BRW was distributed. This
proposal had come in late and therefore was not part of the original
packet. Staff explained that Del Erickson had received the bid for this
study. Park Director will be meeting with Mr. Erickson to discuss what
needs to be done next and the process. The task force will be meeting
February 5th to review the site plan and start work on the needs assessment
for gyms, pool, tennis courts, etc.
Northwest Associated Consultants has been approved to go ahead with the
pedestrian trail system update.
Staff has met with the engineers concerning Aronson and Antlers Parks. The
Aronson Park project will be rebid this spring'. The Antlers Park plan will
be drawn by Tim Erkkila, who staff feels is most competent and experienced
in the area of park design. He will submit estimates of cost, etc.
Park and Recreation Advisory Committee minutes
February 4, 1987
• Page -2-
Tim Murphy has contacted the Park Director about the Valley Lake Park concept
plan. Staff would like Mr. Murphy to serve an internship with the City of
Lakeville and work on various items including needs assessments, park brochure
and coordination of projects. He and staff are each writing a proposal to
city council.
Staff reported that the skating season will soon end. Most of the cities in
the area are experiencing the same problems caused by the warm winter frost
coming out of the ground causing the ice to raise up and standing water on the
rinks. Staff estimates a total of less than two weeks of good skating this
season. Flooding continues, however, whenever possible in hopes of salvaging
what ice is there in case of a cold snap.
Ritter Farm Park was groomed last week when it snowed. The snow was compacted
in hopes of preserving what snow is there for an upcoming major crass country
ski meet on February 7th. Skate-skiing has become very popular and grooming
is not necessary for practicing this recreational sport.
The maintenance workers are starting to concentrate on inside work. Fencing
projects and other outdoor miscellaneous projects will be started as soon as
frost can be broken.
. Staff would like to budget one new permanent building in one park each year in
the Capital Improvement Plan starting in 1988.
Staff is formulating a recommendation for the Park Ranger position for 1987.
The attorney is preparing a draft ordinance to empower the park director to
designate employees who would have the authority to give warnings or
citations.
Staff and the committee had previously discussed what they would like to bring
up for discussion at the joint meeting on February 7th. Messinger, McDonald
and Grenz are planning to attend this meeting.
McDonald asked about major drainways becoming city owned greenways. These are
valuable pieces of property with potential major connections. They are part
of the 100 year flood zones, therefore no building can be built on them,
however, they can be used for pastures, gardens, or ponding areas for control
of flooding. More ponding areas are needed as more land is developed to slow
the intensity of the runoff. Staff would like to see an easement for a
permanent trail possibly from Valley Park to Dakota Heights at some future
.time. McDonald questioned taking drainways for park dedication. Staff stated
this would never be the case, and any land coming to the city for park
dedication would be of high quality.
Item four was a discussion of Hershey Park and the problems associated with
the installation of the bridge. This has led the park director to believe
that Terrace Park would be a better location for the playground equipment
• which has been slated for installation at Hershey Park.
Park and Recreation Advisory Committee minutes
February 4, 1987
• Page -3-
Even though there is a minimal amount of area available to be used as
playground area plus other uses in Terrace Park, it has better accessibility.
Some measurements will be done to see if it would be feasible to move this
playground equipment intended for Hershey Park to Terrace Park and still not
interfere with the ice skating area. Public hearings will be held at Park and
Recreation meetings in March as this is a change in the bond referendum.
Staff does not anticipate much opposition, as these two parks are close to
each other.
The Park Director discussed his memo to the committee on the trail costs. The
original goal was to increase the park dedication fees to $500, until the idea
was suggested for an additional trail surcharge of $100. Messinger stated she
does not feel the park department should pay for sidewalks, rather they should
be part of the road assessment. She does feel funding for bike trails falls
under recreation and is their responsibility. The rest of the committee and
staff also felt sidewalks are basically for citizens safety and are the
responsibility of those directly affected.
Staff explained the difference between the sidewalk and trail along 165th St.
and Ipava as opposed to a collector in an area not in such close proximity to
two schools and a major park. Because of the intense use in that area, it has
been recommended that both the sidewalk and the trail be built. McDonald
• questioned whose responsibility it is to recommend whether sidewalks be built,
if at all. Staff stated that criteria needs to be developed for construction
of sidewalks on main collectors. Staff suggested the issue is based on many
factors and sidewalks will compliment the trail system, making it more
accessible.
Messinger feels the Planning Commission should make a recommendation based on
the need for sidewalks in each individual development and sidewalks should be
paid for as a community, spreading the casts throughout the benefited
neighborhoods, not just on front footage property owners.
Discussion was held on the increases in the park dedication fees. Messinger
feels a separate pedestrian way development fund should be set up with needs
being reviewed annually. A $135.00 increase is proposed for 1987 and 1988,
according to .the Park Director's memo dated January 30, 1987. These fees
would not include Highview Avenue; for this another $100 per dwelling unit
would need to be assessed. Park Director also feels it is a great hardship on
some homeowners who would need to pay these fees with the building permit,
therefore suggests that the fees be collected in full at the time of final
plat. Several cities are now collecting fees for park dedication at the time
of final plat approval.
87-12 Motion was made by Messinger, seconded by McDonald, to recommend to city
council an increase in the park dedication fees as described in the attached
proposed ordinance. Park dedication fees for all single family, multiple
dwellings and apartment complexes will be collected at the time of final
• plat. Commercial and industrial fees should be collected at the time of
building permits.
Motion passed.
Park and Recreation Advisory Committee minutes
• February 5, 1987
Page -4-
87-13 Motion was made by Messinger, seconded by Lulf, to recommend to city council
that a special pedestrian/bike way fund be established for the exclusive use
of construction of the prioritized trails in the City of Lakeville. A fee of
$135.00 per dwelling unit, based on the estimated construction costs as
proposed by the engineers and planners for 1987, would be collected from the
developer at the time of final plat. This fee will be reviewed annually,
based on road construction planned for the upcoming year and community needs.
It is further recommended that the 5' portion of sidewalks along both sides of
Ipava and 165th Street be assessed to the road projects and the remaining 3'
to accommodate building an 8' trail on both sides be paid through fees
generated from the pedestrian/bike way fund.
Motion passed.
Item number seven was an update of the multipurpose community center. Staff
mentioned he visited several other community and recreation centers. Tomorrow
night's meeting is open to the public and citizens are encouraged to attend.
Staff showed the committee a plat of Mi11s Fleet Farm.
87-14 It was moved by Lulf, seconded by McDonald, to recommend a cash contribution
for Mills Fleet Farm rate established by ordinance and calculated as follows:
20 acres X $1,500.00 = $30,000.00.
• Motion passed.
Staff showed the committee the plat of Meadows 6th, showing existing and
proposed trails. The proposed extension of the trail is on the property line
between two landowners. Staff feels this trail easement should be obtained
while it is still available. This will give all the residents of The Meadows
and Clays Acres a safe path to the downtown area. Committee member Grenz
suggested a temporary second access on the east end of the Meadows 6th until
the adjoining property is developed.
87-15 Since .there was no further business, it was moved by McDonald, seconded by
Messinger, to adjourn the meeting.
Motion passed. Meeting adjourned at 9:30 PM.
Respectfully submitted,
Gerald Grenz, Chairper
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