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PARK AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING
• DECEMBER 3, 1986
Meeting was called to order at 7:00 PM by Chairperson Anderson. Members
present: Anderson, Gramstad, Olmsted, Lovelace, Messinger, McDonald and
Grenz. Also present were Park Director Steve Michaud, Recording Secretary
Judi Ringeisen, LAA representative Larry Lulf and members of the committee
for a multipurpose arena.
Minutes of the November 19, 1986 Park and Recreation Committee minutes were
discussed. Staff wished to clarify the fact that the senior housing which
is proposed for Holyoke and 202nd Street is not subsidized housing for
seniors.
Also on page three, second paragraph from the end, the words "Comprehensive
Trail Plan" should replace "bicycle plan".
86-79 Motion was made by Messinger, seconded by McDonald, to approve the minutes
of November 19, 1986, as corrected.
Motion passed.
Chairperson Anderson introduced Steve Knutson and Dave Johnston of the
Lakeville Hockey Boosters who presented their ideas for a multipurpose ice
arena facility to the committee. They have brought their idea before the
Lakeville School Board and the Rosemount Hockey Association and have been
• given favorable responses. The ice arena committee is concerned with the
stunted growth of the hockey program due to bad ice hours available to
participants. They are also interested in what an arena would offer to
other groups: recreational skating, figure skating, adult leagues, a tennis
and soccer practice facility as well as a facility which could be used for
industrial trade shows and events such as the Pan-O-Prog dance.
The plan is for this facility to be city awned and operated. Mr. Knutson
asked for support from the Park and Recreation Committee and help with the
band referendum, which they had tentatively planned for mid-March.
Committee members stated they have supported the idea of the arena for some
time and demonstrated that support when plans were drawn for North Park.
Committee member Messinger felt the referendum should be held sooner than
March due to the ISD #196 bond referendum to be held at approximately that
time. The ice arena committee will be meeting again next week to finalize
plans. They stated the assessment would be about $9.00 on a $60,000 home,
Staff informed the gentlemen of several major obstacles which are pending.
A time line must be put together, construction costs pinned down and plans
made for maintenance once the facility is built. Staff explained the city's
philosophy is that taxes from the bond referendum would pay the principal
and interest of the bonds. All remaining on going operational expenses i.e.
utilities, maintenance and staff, would have to be through fees. Staff also
recommends a petition to show public support for such a facility, even
though an ice arena was on the list of priorities for many pPOgle in the
latest city survey.
The committee endorsed the concept of this facility, pending more facts and
figures. Their concerns were in the area of the park maintenance dept.
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feeling the burden of the maintenance. It was stated that a full time arena
manager would probably be necessary in order for the facility to be run
efficiently and possibly generate revenue. Chairperson Anderson thanked Mr.
Knutson and Mr. Johnston for their time and asked them to return t.o their
meeting on December 17th to report their progress.
The next item on the agenda was a presentation by Scott Johnson of Arcon
Construction. Staff will be meeting on the Lynwood Plat site with the
developers tomorrow morning. This is a unique piece of property in the
urban service area. The lots around Goose Lake have been widened,
eliminating three lots, shortening the cul de sac and making room for the
trail system. Easements are provided for access on northwest and southwest
corners of the plat. Johnson explained where slew areas were located within
the plat. The park area is approximately 13-I4 acres. The plat consists of
many wooded lots of about one--half acre in size. The engineers are planning
an outlet and control on the lake within a couple of years.
The developer doesn't see any problem with putting in the trail in spite of
the topography. Staff suggests the plat be tabled so that land credits and
the park dedication fees can be arranged and the property can be viewed.
The developer is concerned about future plans for this park property; he
would like it to remain in its natural state, as it would fit the
environment of the quality homes being planned. He would like a statement
• of intent from the committee stating their future plans for the park
property. Staff stated there were no funds at the present time to do a
master plan of that area but an official statement could be made. The
developer thanked the committee far their time.
The next item on the agenda was the Park Director's report. Staff reported
the park maintenance department had installed the Christmas decorations
downtown Lakeville on the timer system.
Foxborough grading was halted because of the freeze up. About half the
grading and seeding is done. This project will be continued in the spring.
Staff has estimated that the average cost to construct an eight foot wide
asphalt bikejpedestrian walkway is between $1.50 and $2,50 per linear foot.
This cost is using city equipment and manpower. Messinger will bring this
information to Parkview School.
Staff also reported that the culvert is in between 199th Street and Italy
Avenue. That stretch will be paved next year. This meets the immediate
need in that area. Jim Robinette had informed staff that he was under the
impression that the bike trail's ultimate completion was not intended until
three years from now. The committee would like a clarification from the
city council as to the actual time line. Originally the completion date for
the bike trail had been set far the summer of 1987. Considering the voting
public had been promised the trail no later than 1987, staff will inquire as
to the cost of having private contractors install the asphalt trail. This
would provide for a more professional job, plus accomplish the job as
promised to the voters. A comparison will be prepared between city cost and
private contractors to determine if budgeted funds could in fact pay for a
professionally done trail.
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The park director reported that he had met with the gentleman from Tree
Trust to discuss potential. projects next year that could result in a savings
to some of the band projects. The tree trust does public service work for
the cost of materials only. Supervisors and CETA youth do the work.
McDonald brought up the fact that there is a group from Vo Tech who will
work out landscaping and planting plans for retaining walls. One of the
teachers lives in the South Briar area. McDonald will contact him
concerning these projects.
Item number six on the agenda was the bike trail ordinance review. Under
item 7-8-3, #3 Park. - Staff will check on wording so that long term parking
is not permissible. Discussion was held concerning striping of residential
streets and dangers of entering into a right hand lane which is a bike
trail. Staff will check with the attorney in reference to the wording of
7-8-3 #1 and #3.
Under 7-8-4, Snowmobiles will be able to use the cross country bike and
pedestrian trails during the winter where permissihle.
Item number seven was the bond referendum update. The format of the
financial report is being changed and the updated report is not yet ready
for the committee. This will be sent to them as soon as it is available.
• Staff informed the committee that city council authorized the Valley Park
west project contingent on the Park Director's approval and recommendation.
Staff updated the committee on the Valley Lake Park bond referendum budget.
Phase I is grading; Phase II includes grading and gravel for the entire
trail bed. The storm sewer costs will be incurred by the storm sewer trunk
fund.
Staff gave the committee a rundown on costs already incurred for
engineering, planning, etc. for the bond referendum. The committee and
staff are disappointed to see so much of the bond funds being expended by
engineering fees. Total estimates are in excess of $130,000.00.
Item number eight was the comprehensive plan update. This item was tabled
in order to give the committee more time to read this document.
The Park Director reminded the committee of the council/advisory committee
meeting which will be held on Saturday, December 6th at Fire Station #1.
The meeting will basically be a rap session among members of the various
committees.
Discussion was held on the philosophy of expanding park facilities as it
relates to being able to maintain these facilities financially and
physically. Park Department responsibilities have increased considerably
and will continue to be impacted with current growth rates at an all time
high. Automating equipment and hiring of part time help during busy times
should meet immediate needs, but full time staff will be a necessity for the
• future.
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Under old business, staff asked for a recommendation from the committee on
the Antlers Park project.
86-80 Motion was made by Anderson, seconded by Messinger, to recommend to city
council to withdraw the offer to Warweg to purchase the 4.3 acres. Committee
instructed staff to go ahead and re-draw plans for the park and also to go
ahead with the taking of bids to have existing parking lot paved. Any fund
balance from the paving project would ga to further enhance Antlers Park or
to the Casperson Park on Lake Marion.
Motion passed.
Also under old business, the park dedication ordinance was discussed. The
Committee had received a memo from staff condensing the survey and
highlighting certain areas. Messinger felt the commercial fees should be
raised mare than the Park Director had recommended in his memo. The
committee expressed their desire to keep pace with surrounding communities in
their efforts to protect the welfare of the citizens of Lakeville.
86-81 Motion was made by Anderson, seconded by McDonald, to recommend to city
council the increase in park dedication fees as stated in the memo to the
Park and Recreation committee dated November 28, 1986, with the exception
that commercial/industrial fees be raised to $2,200 per acre. The collection
policy will be that fees are due at the time of final plat. A copy of the
• memo is hereby made a part of these minutes.
Motion passed.
Under new business, the committee was asked to start thinking of official
names for Casperson Park and North Park.
86-82 Since there was no further business, motion was made by Anderson, seconded by
McDonald, to adjourn.
Motion passed. Meeting adjourned at 10:25 FM.
Respectfully submitted.
Y,
Pat Messinger, Secretar
ATTEST:
Deb Anderson, Chairperson
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T0: PARK AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBERS
• FROM: GERALD S. MICHAUD, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR
DATE: NOVEMBER 2$, 1986
SUBJECT: PARK DEDICATION ORDINANCE RECOMMENDATION FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION
An additional two cities were called requesting park dedication information.
Those cities have been added to the enclosed list.
Of the ten cities called, seven collect all fees at the time of final plat
for residential plats. Most cities collect commercial/business/industrial
fees at the time of building permit or with conditional use permits.
Of the ten cities called, six had higher residential fees ranging from a low
of $395.00 at Blaine to a high of $500.00 per single family residential
dwelling unit in Plymouth.
Of the ten cities, eight cities had higher commercial/industrial fees; one
did not require a fee and one was the same as Lakeville, $1,500.00. Those
eight ranged from a low of $1,700 to a high of $2,700 per acre of commercial/
industrial land.
Considering the tremendous amount of development in Lakeville, the increased
demand for recreational facilities by new residents and the minimal amount of
• general fund dollars available for park and recreational capital development,
I would recommend the following for consideration:
1. The collection of park dedication funds policy be adjusted to collect all
funds prior to the final plat approval.
2. The residential fee per single family dwelling unit be increased from
$375.00 per dwelling unit to $450.00.
3. The two family dwelling lot be increased fr~n $750.00 to $900.00.
4. The fees for apartments, townhouses, condominiums and other dwelling
units be increased from $250.00 per unit plus $75.00 per bedroom above the
first bedroom to $325.00 per dwelling unit plus $100.00 per bedroom above the
first bedroom.
5. Commercial and industrial be increased form $1,500 per acre to $2,000.00
per acre.
Please review this information and be prepared to make a final recommendation
at our December 3rd meeting. Committee may add or subtract from the
recommendation herewith.
If there are any questions, please do not hesitate to call.
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• cc: Patrick McGarvey