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ENVIRONMENTAL AFFAIRS COMMITTEE
December 12, 2001
ITEM 1: Call to order.
The meeting was called to order by Chair Rosselit at 6:00 p.m. in the Orchard Conference Room.
ITEM 2: Roll call of members.
Roll call of members was taken. Present: Rosselit, Goodwin, Kline, McManus and Skeps. Also
in attendance were Barbara Moeller, Environmental Resources Coordinator; and Karla
Hartmann, Engineering Secretary. Absent: Member Schmitt.
ITEM 3: Approval of the October 2, 2001 Environmental Affairs Committee Meeting
Minutes.
Committee members approved the October 2, 2001 Environmental Affairs Committee meeting
minutes as submitted.
Chair Rosselit recessed the Environmental Affairs Committee to adjourn to the Council
Chambers for a joint Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee meeting.
ITEM 4: Review and Discuss Proposed Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources
Committee Goals, Responsibilities and Membership.
Mr. Steve Michaud, Parks Director, introduced Mayor Robert Johnson. Mayor Johnson
reviewed the history of the Environmental Affairs Committee, and the advantages of combining
the natural resources function with the Parks and Recreation Committee. He stated that the
motivation for this proposed committee stems from the fact that development within Lakeville is
made more difficult because of the layered review process. Combining these two similar
committees would help streamline the process. Mayor Johnson indicated that this item would be
formally considered at the December 17 City Council meeting.
Mr. Michaud discussed the process of the new committee and stated that the environmental
affairs items would be added to the agenda and the process would transition as it progressed.
Discussion occurred regarding public hearings.
Chair Rosselit stated that one major function of the EAC was the review of plats for
environmental protection issues such as wetlands, tree preservation and erosion control. He
asked if these functions would continue as part of the new committee.- Mayor Johnson stated that
a new position has been created on City Staff for an Environmental Technician who is trained to
perform these functions.
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Member Skeps stated that one of the benefits of the EAC was to protect the concern of citizens,
and asked that the Council consider that environmental review continue to be a part of citizen
review. Mayor Johnson indicated that additional information could be provided upon inquiry.
Member Goodwin asked if the Environmental Resources Coordinator would continue to present
environmental impacts at the meetings. Mayor Johnson stated that due to the addition of staffing
(Environmental Technician) it might not be necessary. Member Goodwin gave the example of
Wetland Mitigation, and asked if this committee will have an opportunity to review the proposed
plans. Mayor Johnson explained that if the city ordinances and regulations are met, that there
would be no purpose for further review.
Member McManus stated that since it doesn't sound like plat review would come before the
committee on a routine basis, does that mean that additional information would have to be
requested if needed. Mayor Johnson stated that the same information and reports would still be
made available.
Member McManus stated that there is a synergism amongst the EAC. She indicated that the
EAC asks for additional efforts that makes the developer go the extra mile to protect the
environment. Member Rosselit agreed noting that staff does a good job of information sharing,
but that some motivation is still needed to make plans the best possible.
Member Kline expressed concern about the size of the committee (10 members) being too large
to effectively deal with issues. Mayor Johnson stated that the Council is attempting to preserve
as much of the expertise as possible to roll into the new committee. (Parks person) asked if the
tenth position would actually be an alternate. Mayor Johnson responded affirmatively.
Member McManus asked how the nine members would be chosen. Mayor Johnson responded
that any interested members, would have to apply. Steve Michaud clarified that there is currently
6 members on the Parks Committee, which leaves 3 vacancies available.
Bob Boldus commented that it appears that this proposal eliminates duplication of efforts and
helps to cut down on paperwork.
Jon Volimas asked if this proposal had not come forward, wouldn't there have been changes to
the EAC as a result of the additional staff position. The Mayor responded that the
Environmental Technician would perform some reviews of plats.
Chair Rosselit asked if the Council is asking for a recommendation. Mayor Johnson stated that
the Council would appreciate a recommendation in the form of a motion from both the EAC and
the Parks and Recreation Committee.
Member Goodwin asked for specifics on how the meetings would be conducted, and whether or
not plats would be presented. Mr. Michaud responded that the EAC would continue to be a
regular part of the agenda, but that since the reports evolve from staff meetings, staff is pretty
well briefed by the time it reaches the advisory committee. He stated that discussion on the
Parks and Recreation Committee is typically brief and disagreements are very rare. Chair
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Rosselit asked if staff is suggesting that there is an incompatibility of interests of members. Mr.
Michaud stated that Parks and Recreation has been conserving parks, wooded areas, wetlands,
bluffs, pond areas, lakeshore property and waterways for years, but that obviously members from
both committees would require a change in roles.
Member Goodwin stated that the implication of the new committee name is that the focus is on
parks with natural resources being subsidiary. Mr. Michaud assured Member Goodwin that
natural resources would not be a diminished role in the new committee, but rather an added
function.
Mr. Michaud stated that Pat Messinger, Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee member,
could not be present this evening, but that she supports streamlining of the two committees and
looks forward to the EAC expertise.
Member McManus asked if the new committee would have access to the developer. Mr.
Michaud stated that has not been decided, but that all reports are reviewed by both the developer
and staff prior to advisory review.
Mr. Michaud asked Ms. Moeller if details of plats are discussed with developers at the EAC
meetings. Ms. Moeller reviewed the format of a typical EAC meeting and stated that developers
and engineers are present at the meetings to answer any questions. Mr. Michaud stated that
developers are not present at park and recreation committee meetings now unless invited to
discuss a particular issue.
Chair Rosselit stated that not always does even the best intended staff member think of all the
questions. Member Skeps agreed and stated that he supports streamlining except when the end
result product is not as good.
Member Goodwin stated that many issues would not be addressed in public view, but rather in
private offices. He expressed concern that water quality would diminish and that parks would
become more important. Mayor Johnson responded that the City Council has a vested interest in
the area lakes because of all the work that has been put forth in order to preserve them. He
added that Lakeville has always been environmentally conscious and that nothing has been
hidden from the public. The mayor reiterated that if an item meets the city ordinance that it
doesn't make sense to further review. He added that if an item has additional issues that need to
be addressed outside of the ordinance, then further review might be necessary.
Chair Rosselit stated that one of the EAC members is not a Lakeville resident and asked if he
would be precluded. Mayor Johnson affirmed that the new Parks, Recreation and Natural
Resources Committee requires that members be citizens of Lakeville. Member Rosselit noted
that special consideration was made in order for this member to be on the EAC, and stated that
he has been a faithful member.
Mr. John Hennen stated that any interested members should send a letter to the Mayor at City
Hall no later than 4:30 p.m. on Friday, December 21, 2001.
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The joint meeting recessed.
The EAC reconvened in the Orchard Conference Room.
Discussion occurred regarding the merging of the two committees, and the consensus of all was
that they were in agreement with streamlining the process but were concerned about diminishing
the environmental review aspect, and therefore would like to see review of the plats continue.
Member Kline stated that he likes the idea of reviewing parks and greenways as part of natural
resources.
Member Goodwin asked Barb Moeller what her role would be in the new committee. Ms.
Moeller stated that she was not aware of the details, but that it was her understanding that she
would still do reviews. Member Kline stated that he would like to recommend that
environmental issues be reviewed by Ms. Moeller and that the specifics of each plat be made
available to the committee (i.e. tree preservation). Ms. Moeller stated that it seemed that the
Mayor said when you get your packets that you could call staff with questions. Member
McManus wondered how would people know what questions to ask.
Member Rosselit stated that he felt this was a poor method of communication with regard to the
committee member who was not present this evening, and felt it was a slap in the face.
Member McManus asked how the Environmental Resources Coordinator (ERC) position would
be affected. Ms. Moeller stated that she didn't think her position would change, but that an
additional staff person would be working on review. Member McManus asked if this person
would be responsible for review of wetlands. Ms. Moeller stated that WCA review and
mitigation most likely would still be the responsibility of the ERC position. Tree preservation
review would be a part of the new position. Member McManus stated that the term "technician"
implies "non- engineer" and asked if this position would report to the ERC. Ms. Moeller stated
that the position would report to the ERC, and would require a 4 year degree with a science
background. Member Goodwin asked who would supervise the ERC position. Ms. Moeller
stated that staff discussed the possibility of the ERC reporting to the Parks Director, but that
because of the stormwater issues it seemed to make more sense to remain under the City
Engineer.
Member Goodwin expressed concern that the natural resources issues would be diminished in
value with the new committee. The committee members agreed.
Chair Rosselit called for a motion. Discussion of the wording of the motion took place.
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01.38 Motion by Member Kline, Second by Skeps, while we regret the loss of the
Environmental Affairs Committee with emphasis on natural resources and its interaction with
Lakeville citizens and developers, we support the new Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources
Committee in the interest of streamlining with the following recommendation: That the
Environmental Resources Coordinator continue to present to this new committee with each plat
those environmental issues of:
Tree preservation
Wetland conservation
Soil erosion
Stormwater management
Water quality
and other natural resources concerns.
Roll call vote was called on the motion.
Ayes: Rosselit, Goodwin, Kline, McManus and Skeps.
Nays: 0.
Motion passed.
IT EM 5• Wetland Management Plan Update (Andrea Moffatt, WSB and Mac Caff erty,
Wetland Technician).
Ms. Moeller introduced Andrea Moffatt and Mac Cafferty. Ms. Moffatt provided an update
stating that 300 wetlands have been assessed with approximately 100 -150 wetlands remaining to
be assessed.
The members discussed the various management classes and how this information would be
helpful for developers in plat designs.
Chair Rosselit stated that he appreciates the work of Ms. Moffatt and Mr. Cafferty and
encouraged them to keep a good heart in what they do, and to continue to do their best. Member
Skeps added that this is a perfect example of what may be left out of any new committee, and
that while this information is not directly related to plats it is very valuable.
Chair Rosselit stated that he would not be reapplying to the new committee because he feels he
has worn out his welcome. Member Kline stated that he had been considering resigning from the
EAC due to the logistics of traveling from his downtown office, and so therefore will also not be
reapplying.
Member McManus stated that as a courtesy to Member Schmitt, she feels the City Council
should personally inform him.
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ITEM 6: Other Business.
Member Skeps initiated discussion regarding appreciation for the members who would not be
reapplying, and Chair Rosselit asked if he would like to put it in the form of a motion.
01.39 Motion by Member Kline, Second by Skeps, stating that he would like to thank Members
Rosselit, Kline and Schmitt for their years of service to the EAC. The committee unanimously
voted in favor of the motion.
ITEM 6: Adjournment.
The meeting adjourned at 7:45 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted,
K.4 la Hartmann
Recording Secretary
ATTEST:
Tom Goodwin
Secretary