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HomeMy WebLinkAbout09-05-85 ,ti Lakeville, Minnesota PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES September 5, 1985. 7:00 p.m. Steve Sizer, Chairman, called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. in the Lakeville City Council Chambers. Roll call of members was taken. Present: Cammack, Langhorst, MacGibbon, Miller, Sizer, Walters, Whittingham. Also present: Roger Knutson, City Attorney; Alan Brixius, City Planner; Jim: Robinette, Community Development Director; Shirley Sorensen, Recording Secretary. Chairman Sizer called for additions or corrections to the .minutes of the August 15, 1985 planning commission meeting. 85.143 Motion was made by Walters, seconded by Langhorst, to approve the minutes of the August 15, 1985 planning commission meeting. Roll call was taken on the motion. Ayes: Walters, Whittingham, Miller, Langhorst, MacGibbon, Cammack. Abstain: Sizer Chairman Sizer opened the public hearing to consider the application of Jerry L. Tongen for variances from requirements of 50% decorative material on building, 30 foot setback, square footage and roof pitch in order to construct a 2,:000 square foot storage building inside a fenced area at 8815 209th Street West. Mr. Knutson stated that the proper mailed and published notices have been given for this hearing. Mr. Brixius went over the planner's report dated September 3, 1985, explaining the types of variances requested and that no approval is recommended. He said they may pursue the option of an exception by conditional use permit, however, there are some concerns regarding building type and construction .requirements of the Lakeville Zoning Ordinance. Mr. Bill Macklin, representing Mr. Tongen, stated the reason they went for a variance is because of having an eight foot fence already there and it would be justified for that reason, within the fenced area. He said the type. of construction that is proposed is very similar to the very large building right next door, with no decorative facing on it at all. Also, the building will be on the side where the alley is and only visible to the adjacent. business. Mr. Robinette stated that this building would not be seen by the public as it is inside the eight foot fence. The .north and west sides have metal .fencing and the south and east sides are concrete panels. The concrete panels are the sides exposed to the • public. Planning Commission Minutes September 5, 1985 • Discussion followed on: roof pitch, type of fencing, easements, square footage, parking area, lean-to, decorative facing and the concrete panels.. Sizer stated that the commission does not look favorably on variance requests, feels it is a dangerous practice. He feels we should take some other approach to handle this situation. Mr. Robinette stated that this piece of land has severe restrictions, therefore, some other arrangements, had to be made for storage after the six months time limit was up for using the semis (a condition of the conditional use permit). He also stated that there has been an ordinance change recently enacted to address this problem, plus this is a unique .situation and probably none like it anywhere else in the city. 85.144 Motion was made by Miller, seconded by Walters, to close the public hearing.. Roll call was taken on the motion. Ayes: Unanimous 85.145 Motion was made by Cammack, seconded by Walters, to recommend to city council approval of the application of Jerry L. Tongen for variances from requirements of 50% decorative material on building, square footage and roof pitch in order to .construct a 2,000 square foot storage building inside a fenced area at 8815 209th .Street West, subject to any other staff recommendations. Roll call was taken on the motion. Ayes: Cammack, Walters. Nays: Whittingham, Miller, Sizer, Langhorst, MacGibbon Miller's nay was because he strongly believes in the 50% decorative facing on a building because of the residential area to the north and to the east he feels that we should look into the future and not simply to the building right now. He feels the applicant has other alternatives, rather than the variances. Sizer feels the same, as does Langhorst and Whittingham. MacGibbon also feels the same, but went on to say she feels the 50% of decorative facing should be done but the council probably will not tell them to do it, which should have been that way from the start. Chairman Sizer opened the. public hearing to consider the application of Thomas Grimm for a conditional use permit to move an existing home on to their property at 17691 Kettering Trail. Mr. Knutson stated that the proper mailed and published notices have been given for this hearing. Mr. Brixius went over the planner's report dated September 3, 1985, stating that the city inspectors have check this building out and found it in good shape,. but they do strongly recommend the applicant post a security. bond. • 85.146 Motion was made by Miller, seconded by Cammack, to continue this hearing 2 i. Planning Commission Minutes September 5, 1985 • un til later on, to see if the applicant arrives. Roll call was taken on the motion. .Ayes: Unanimous Chairman Sizer opened the public hearing to consider the application of Charles McCarty for re-subdivision. consolidating 5 lots, creating one lot and one outlot, and a conditional use permit for construction of a mini storage facility, east of Kenrick Avenue and north of 165th Street. Mr. Knutson stated that the proper mailed and published notices have been given for this hearing. Mr. Brixius went over the planner's report dated September 3, 1985 and reiterated the fact they need a detailed list of plantings and sizes, along with lighting and signage plans. Some of the .commission members said they want to see the signage, lighting and landscape plans prior to acting on this item. They feel very strongly on this point. 85.147 Motion was made by Langhorst, seconded by Miller, to close the public hearing. Roll call. was taken on the motion. Ayes: Unanimous . 85.148 Motion was made by Sizer, seconded by Langhorst, to recommend to city council approval of the application of Charles McCarty for re-subdivision consolidating 5 lots, creating. one lot and one outlot, and a conditional use permit for construction of a mini storage facility, east of Kenrick Avenue and north of 165th Street, subject to the five conditions listed in the planner's report of September 3, 1985 and any other staff recommenda- tions. Roll call was taken on the motion. Ayes: Unanimous Chairman Sizer opened the public hearing to consider the application of Eldon Fossum for preliminary and final plat approval, variance from cul-de-sac length requirement, and vacation of existing street right- of-way, in the vicinity of Jersey Avenue and Upper 196th Way. (Marion Hills plat) Mr. Knutson stated that the proper mailed and published notices have been given for this hearing. Mr. Brixius explained what is being proposed in the R-2 District. This is a 23 lot subdivision and all lots conform to requirements,. running from 13,150 square feet to 29,000 square feet. The topography is steep and is a wooded area, therefore, they feel there is justification for the variance. Mrs. Rudiger, 19649 Jersey Avenue, wanted to know the length and width of the cul-de-sac. Frank Kriz, Land Surveyors., Inc., represented applicant Eldon Fossum and showed Mrs. Rudiger the plat with the dimensions on it. • Jan Graff, 10245 Upper 196th Way, asked how many of the lots were the 3 Planning Commission Minutes September 5, 1985 i small, 13,150 square foot, size and w small. as told there were only two that Mrs. Gothard, 10251 Upper 196th Way, is very concerned about where the water will drain to, since there already is a drainage problem in the area. Mr. Kriz stated there would be two holdin could be dug out more if it was necessaryg ponds, Outlots A & B, and they .John Graff, 10245 Upper 196th Way, stated that the outlet and drainage ditch that was constructed this year should take care of the water problem. Discussion followed on the cul-de-sac-length and drainage problems.. Diane feels very strongly that the drainage plans should be made and be spe- cific, prior to her approving this plan. She is aware of the severe drainage problem in this area. and feels that adding more development will make even more of a problem. Mr. Kriz went over the drainage and utility plan that has been approved by the city engineer and stated that all the water will be channeled into the two existing ponds, perhaps connecting them., if necessary. He also said they could restrict run-off from the ponds. Mr. Jack Harrison, 10213 Upper 196th Way, stated that he feels that pond B is in his back yard and he has lots of water there now. He feels the culvert is no longer there, or it least not functioning, and the water is not getting to Lake Marion right now. Mr. Robinette said he would check this culvert out. Commission members wanted it noted that there is a definite problem here, on Upper 196th Way, and asked that the city engineer look into. the matter. It was suggested that the city upgrade the road and put in a new culvert. Mrs. Gothard stated they had previously asked that the road (Upper 196th Way) be closed. 85.149 Motion was made by Cammack, seconded by Miller, to close the public hearing. Roll call was taken on the motion. Ayes: Unanimous Discussion followed on drainage,. soil types and necessity for city engineer to also look at the adjacent area. 85.1.50 Motion was made by Langhorst, seconded by Sizer, to recommend to city council approval of .the application of Eldon Fossum for preliminary and final plat, variance from cul-de-sac length requirement and vacation of 4 Planning Commission Minutes September 5, 1985 existing street right-of-way, in the vicinity of Jersey Avenue and Upper 196th Way, (Marion Hills plat) subject to the seven. recommendations of the planner's report, with #5 revised to 'Site grading and landscaping plans will be submitted for review at the time of building permit issuance.' Roll call was taken on the motion.. Ayes: Walters, Whittingham, Miller, Sizer, Langhorst, Cammack. Nays: MacGibbon MacGibbon's nay was because she just can't vote yes, as a matter of principal, unless the water situation is more clearly addressed. .Chairman Sizer opened the public hearing to consider the application of the City of Lakeville for a revision to the Zoning Ordinance, Section 34, R-MH, Mobile Home Park District, having to do with mobile home site size. standards and accessory building requirements. Miller questioned an accessory building meeting the setback requirements. Miller left at 9:18 p.m. Mr. Brixius went over the proposed ordinance amendments, with the .three different size homes being addressed. He said nothing in the current ordinance covers accessory buildings. Mr. Ken Grund and Mr. Bill Block with North Creek Mobile Home Park were in attendance to answer questions. Mr. Grund said he doesn't quite understand how they are addressing the garage issue. Mr. Brixius stated garages are not allowed except under a planned unit development now, but that will change if the proposed amendments are adopted. 85.151 Motion was made by Walters, seconded by Langhorst, to close the public hearing. Roll-call was taken on the motion. Ayess Unanimous 85.152 Motion was made by MacGibbon, seconded by Cammack, to recommend to city council approval of the application of the City of Lakeville for a revision to the Zoning Ordinance, Section 34, R-MH, Mobile Home Park District, having to do with mobile home site size standards and to table 34.5.3.n dealing with accessory buildings, to give staff more time for study. Roll call was taken. on the. motion.. Ayes: Unanimous Chairman Sizer opened the continued public hearing for the Thomas Grimm conditional use permit to move a house. • 85.153 Motion was made by Sizer, seconded by Whittingham, to continue this public hearing until the September 19th planning. commission meeting, as Mr. 5 Planning Commission Minutes September 5, 1985 Thomas Grimm was not present. Roll call. was taken on .the motion. Ayes: Unanimous Chairman Sizer called for review and recommendations on the I-35 Redevel- opment Project ~~2, Tax Increment Financing Plan, August 1985. Mr. Brxius went over what is planned with this project and the need for its' adoption. He stated this is prime economic corridor and needs to be addressed, for future development. He went on to explain that this started off as a small development, but has now grown into quite a large development, for additional monies. We .need to get this established to accommodate the Mills Fleet Farm Store. Improvements need to be completed before the Mills Store is built. This plan was put together to enhance the area. Mr. Robinette stated they have been meeting with the State for years regarding frontage roads and they want to give. them all back to the cities. We would. like to negotiate a deal with them, regarding overlay of Kenrick Avenue before we take it back. 85.154 Motion was made by Sizer, seconded by Langhorst, to approve the resolution for the I-35 Redevelopment Project ~~2, Tax Increment Financing Plan, August 1985. Roll call was taken on the motion. Ayes: Unanimous 85.155 Motion was made by Sizer to adjourm the meeting. Voice vote was taken on the motion. Chairman Sizer adjourned the meeting at 10:15 p.m. Respectfully submitted, d Dennis Miller, Secretary ATTEST: J ~_~j .Steven C. .Sizer, Cha' an • 6