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HomeMy WebLinkAbout10-17-85 ' ~ I' Lakeville, Minnesota PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES October 17, 1985 7:00 p.m. Diane MacGibbon, Vice-Chairperson, called the meeting to order at 7:02 p.m. in the Lakeville City Council Chambers. Roll call of members was taken. Present: Cammack, Langhorst, MacGib- bon, Miller, Walters. Absent: Sizer, Whittingham Also present: Alan Brixius, City Planner; Tom Grundhoefer, City Attorney; Jim Robinette, Community Development Director; Pat McGarvey, City Administrator; Shirley Sorensen, Recording Secretary. Vice-Chairperson MacGibbon asked if there were any additions or corrections to the minutes of the October 3rd planning commission meeting. 85.169 Motion was made by Miller, seconded by Walters, to approve the minutes of the October 3, 1985 planning commission meeting. Ro11 call of members was taken. Ayes: Walters, Miller, MacGibbon, Langhorst. Abstain: Cammack Vice-Chairperson MacGibbon opened the public hearing to consider the application of North Creek Mobile Home Park for a minor comprehensive plan change to include the land of North Creek Mobile Home Park Phase II in the 1990 Planned Urban Service Area, and to review and make recommendation on development plans for Phase II. Mr. Grundhoefer attested to the proper mailed and published notices having been given for this hearing. Mr. Robinette explained what was happening with the North Creek plan, that there were items on North Creek Phase I that needed to be ad- dressed, prior to proceeding with Phase II. Maynard and Fannie Smith, 17600 Pilot Knob Road, stated that they own the property across the road from North Creek and said there is a lot of water on their property now and fear there will be even more, with the mobile home park being constructed. Mr. Robinette said he would have the city engineer take another look at this matter. Mr. Ken Grund, Developer, said they are withdrawing this application for North Creek Phase II, as conditions are such they are not able to get Phase I completed. 85.170 Motion was made by Miller, seconded by Cammack, to close the public hearing. • Roll call was taken on the motion. Ayes: Unanimous PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES October 17, 1985 85.171 Motion was made by Langhorst, seconded by Walters, to accept the withdrawal of the request to review and make recommendations on development plans for North Creek Mobile Home Park Phase II and the minor comprehensive plan change to include the land in the 1990 Planned Urban Service Area. Roll call was taken on the motion. Ayes: Unanimous Vice-Chairperson MacGibbon opened the public hearing to consider the application of the cities of Apple Valley and Lakeville for a condi- tional use permit to operate a joint recycling and compost facility on the former site of the Apple Valley Sewage Treatment Plant, adjacent to Pilot Knob Road, approximately 3/4 miles south of County Road 58. Mr. Grundhoefer attested to the proper mailed and published notices having been given for this hearing. Mr. Robinette explained that this was a sewage treatment plant years ago and the land is owned by the City of Apple Valley. Mr. Brixius said this would be a public regulated facility and the major factors are appearance and access to the site. He went on to say that. it should be screened, perhaps in phases, and that shrubbery is offered by the Soils Conservation Service for below market prices. The access road would have to be improved, the parking and loading areas would have to be resurfaced, and lighting of the area would be completed by late 1986. Ms. Dale Edwards and Mr. Tom Lawell, represented the applicants to answer questions. They stated the items to be collected are glass, aluminum, newspapers, and clothing. There is to be one truck parked on the site for collection. Discussion followed on swales in the area, fencing, locked fence across driveway, restroom facilities, heating system, hours of operation and number of trucks. Maynard and Fannie Smith own property near this proposed facility and are apprehensive about it, feeling it will be a glorified dump. Mr. Smith was wondering who would take care of the windrows of compost and Mr. Lawell said it would be the duty of one of the three cities involved to take care of them. They will work out an agreement regarding having a front end loader down there to take care of the windrows. Mr. Lawell stated that this is a new concept so some of these things will have to be worked out as they come up. Mrs. Smith feels there will eventually be development in the area and questions who would want to build a house next to something like this. Mr. Brixius mentioned the screening that would be put in eventually. Mr. Michael Smith, 1213 Circle High Drive, Burnsville, asked how much fencing would be done and Mr. Lawell stated that it would only go across the access road. Mr. Smith feels there would be people cutting • through the field to the driveway, as there are people dumping garbage 2 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES October 17, 1985 in that area now. He also said he feels there are other accesses being . used to get on to this parcel of land. Mr. Lawell said they would check this out. 85.172 Motion was made by Cammack, seconded by Walters, to close the public .hearing. Roll call was taken on the motion. Ayes: Unanimous Mr. Lawell stated there would be an identification sign at the entrance. The question was asked what could be done if this facility is put in and it-then becomes a nuisance. Mr. Robinette stated that if there was a complaint it would be handled by staff, and if that wasn't satisfac- tory the complainant could go directly to the City Council. 85.173 Motion was made by Miller, seconded by Langhorst, to recommend to city council approval of the application of the cities of Apple Valley and Lakeville for a conditional use permit to operate a joint recycling and compost facility on the former site of the Apple Valley Sewage Treat- ment Plant, adjacent to Pilot Knob Road, approximately 3/4 miles south of County Road 58, subject to the three recommendations in the plan- . ner's report dated October 15, 1985, as follows: 1. Landscaping should be provided along all property lines in conformance with Section 9.7 of the City Ordinance. The Soils Conservation Service should be contacted to see if shrubbery is available at a low cost. 2. The access road be surfaced entirely with gravel material and be widened to allow for two-way traffic. The minimum acceptable width standard is 12 feet per drive aisle, thus 24 feet is recommended. 3. The parking and loading areas should also be surfaced with aggregate material. Also, subject to blocking off of all accesses, including the one to be used, and any other staff recommendations. Roll call was taken on the motion. Ayes: Unanimous Vice-Chairperson MacGibbon opened the public hearing to consider the application of George Warweg for concept stage planned unit development approval for a residential and commercial development, east of Indra Way between State Highway 50 and County Road 64. Mr. Grundhoefer attested to the proper mailed and published notices having been given for this hearing. There were quite a few residents of this area in attendance and Mr. Robinette distributed the old plat map, showing the very small lots that were originally platted. He explained that what Mr. Warweg is proposing is a planned unit development concept plan only. • 3 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES October 17, 1985 Mr. Brixius went over the planner's report dated September 19, 1985 • stating that some 70' frontage lots should be increased to at least 75', the drainage plans will be reviewed by the city engineer, this plan would remedy an access situation, and the enlarged lot sizes are favorable, but feel the R-7 zoning is too severe for this area. .The question was raised as to another access on to Highway 50 and Frank Kriz, representing the applicant, stated they had talked to the Highway Department and were told they would not permit any more accesses off Highway 50. Mr. Karl Lutgens, 10127 199th Way, asked about when they would be coming back for preliminary and final platting. Mr. Kriz told them what Mr. Warweg is planning, to have an approved concept plan on paper to sell a potential developer, but he doesn't know when this might come about. Mr. Lutgens is also wondering about the zoning changes. Mr. Doug Anderson, 10235 199th Way, is concerned about the R-7 zoning and would not want apartments, or higher density housing, built here. They moved here for the aesthetics of this area. Ms. Beckey Miller, 19952 Kenwood Trail, stated also that they moved here for the aesthetic value of the area and would not like to have apartments here. Mr. Tom Rasmussen, 9930 199th Way, asked what the access problems are and Mr. Kriz explained that the only access into .that area is Jaguar Avenue and if something should happen, perhaps on the railroad tracks, there would be a problem. Mr. Rasmussen .does feel the land will be developed, sooner or later. Mr. Robinette explained that the city is putting in a new Indra Way, because. of the parking problem in Antler's Park. Mr. McGarvey pointed out just exactly where Antler's Park is and where the new Indra Way is being built. Mr. .David Frost, 9880 199th Way, questioned the outlot, which is presently under water, and wanted to know if we couldn't put a culvert in so a walkway could be installed across the outlot-pond, which would be on 199th Way. Mr. Kriz said that Mr. Warweg would like to have that done, but it would have to go through the DNR. Ms. Renae Franklin, 10046 199th Way, wondered if Jaguar Avenue would be widened and who would pay for it. She also stated she disagrees with the proposed R-7 zoning. Mr. Brixius stated that the property owners fronting the street would be assessed. Ms. Franklin said there is already a traffic problem on Jaguar Avenue now and asks what will happen with. all the additional traffic to be generated from a development of this size. • 4 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES October 17, 1985 Mr. Robinette stated the highway department has budgeted upgrading this highway, but probably not for several years. Mr. Kriz had a drawing showing what is proposed at this time, turn lanes and lessening of the curve on Highway 50. Mr. Brixius pointed out that with this development there is an alterna- tive for getting in and out of this area. Mr. Rasmussen doesn't think quad home types are the answer in this area, or in any area of Lakeville for that matter. Mr. Kriz said they are just showing that type of zoning in case the time warrants them, but it might very well be just single family homes. Discussion followed on the following items: 1. Storm sewer 2. Running the road along the tracks 3. Getting on to Highway 50 from Jaguar Avenue 4. Small park for this area 5. Parking 6. Possible commercial development 7. Number of lots and total acreage 8. Shoreland Overlay District 85.174 Motion was made by Miller, seconded by Langhorst, to close the .public hearing. • Roll call was taken on the motion. Ayes: Unanimous 85.175 Motion was made by Langhorst, seconded by MacGibbon, to recommend to city council approval of the concept stage planned unit development of George Warweg for a residential and commercial development, east of Indra Way between State Highway 50 and County Road 64, subject to all the planner's recommendations in their report of September 19, 19$5, and consensus being that the R-7 is too high a density for this request. Roll call of members .was taken. Ayes: MacGibbon, Cammack, Langhorst. Nays: Miller, Walters Miller's nay was because of the R-7 proposed zoning and the fact he is a stickler for the Shoreland Overlay District regulations and .the fact there are too many small lots. He feels. 11,000 square feet is too small. Walters is not against R-7 zoning, but just wanted the builder to be aware the density is considered low, so he doesn't plan for a lot of units, coming to the final approval stage and not be misunderstood. Vice-Chairperson MacGibbon opened the public hearing to consider the application of M. G. Astleford for a preliminary and final plat of Adkins Addition, also review and approval of a site plan for Lot 3, • 5 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES October 17, 1985 east of the intersection of County Road 70 and Kenrick Avenue, on the north side of County Road 70. Mr. Grundhoefer attested to the proper mailed and published notices having been given for this hearing. Mr. Brixius stated they have found that there were several changes that needed to be made and the developers didn't have enough time. to get these changes prepared, so he has asked that this item be tabled. Mr. Ron Alwin, Land Surveyors, Inc., said that he had talked to Steve Grohoski and he goes along with this development, even though some streets are partially on his property. 85.176 Motion was made by MacGibbon, seconded by Miller, to continue this public hearing until the November 7th planning commission, giving the developers time to make several changes in their plat, Adkins Addition, east of the intersection of County Road 70 and Kenrick Avenue, on the north side of County Road 70. Roll call was taken on the motion. Ayes: Unanimous Vice-Chairperson MacGibbon called for review of the proposed change in the sign ordinance. Mr. Brixius went over the proposed change in sign ordinance No. 254, Section 7.7, ICD District. . 85.177 Motion was made by Miller, seconded by MacGibbon, to recommend to city council approval for amending Ordinance #254, Section 7.7 ICD District. (Ordinance attached). Roll call was taken on the motion. Ayes: Unanimous .Vice-Chairperson MacGibbon adjourned the meeting at 9:15 p.m. Respectfully submitted, ` ~ _ r . /~i _ Dennis Miller, Secretary ATTEST: iane MacGibbon, Vice-Chairperson 6