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Planning Commission Meeting Minutes
August 19, 2010
The August 19, 2010 Planning Commission meeting was called to order by Chair
Davis in the City Hall Council Chambers at 6:00 p.m.
Flag pledge and roll call of members:
Present: Chair Davis
Vice Chair Lillehei
Secretary Adler
Commissioner Drotning
Commissioner Glad
Commissioner Grenz
Commissioner Maguire
Ex- officio Bussler
Absent: None
Staff Present: Daryl Morey, Planning Director; Allyn Kuennen, Associate
Planner; Zach Johnson, Assistant City Engineer; Roger Knutson,
City Attorney; and Penny Brevig, Recording Secretary.
Chair Davis welcomed Leader John Bermel and Boy Scout Troop #269 who were in
attendance at tonight's meeting.
ITEM 3. APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES:
The July 22, 2010 Planning Commission meeting minutes were approved as
presented.
ITEM 4. ANNOUNCEMENTS:
Mr. Morey stated the following items were distributed at tonight's meeting:
1. The July 22nd Planning Commission meeting minutes and the one page
memos for the New Business Agenda items that were inadvertently left
out of the Planning Commission packet.
2. The Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources Committee meeting motion
regarding the Quail Ridge Third Addition preliminary and final plat.
Mr. Morey indicated that due to there being no agenda items scheduled for the
September 2, 2010 Planning Commission meeting, that meeting will be cancelled.
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He also stated that at the end of tonight's meeting, he would like to have a short
discussion to consider moving the September 16th Planning Commission meeting to
September 23rd.
ITEM 5. CONSENT AGENDA
10.35 Motion was made and seconded to approve the August 19, 2010 consent agenda as
follows:
A. Approve the request of Performance Office Papers for an extension of
their building setback variance.
Ayes: Glad, Maguire, Lillehei, Davis, Adler, Grenz, Drotning.
Nays: 0
ITEM 6. QUAIL RIDGE THIRD ADDITION
Chair Davis opened the public hearing to consider the request of D. R. Horton for a
preliminary and final plat of 34 single - family residential lots to be known as Quail
Ridge Third Addition, located west of Ipava Avenue, south of 183rd Street and
north of 185th Street (CSAH 60). The Recording Secretary attested that the legal
notice had been duly published in accordance with State Statutes and City Code.
Mike Suel from D. R. Horton presented an overview of their request. Mr. Suel
indicated that Quail Ridge Third Addition will be developed in two phases. D. R.
Horton is requesting preliminary plat approval of 34 single family lots and final
plat approval of 20 single family lots for the first phase. The second phase of 14
single family lots will be final platted at a future date.
Associate Planner Allyn Kuennen presented the planning report. Mr. Kuennen
stated that staff, the police department and the fire department all support making
the Quail Ridge neighborhood street connection to Italy Avenue with this phase of
the development. The street connection will provide a second access point for Italy
Avenue residents, which is important for public safety reasons. He stated that the
developer hosted a neighborhood meeting on July 29, 2010. Mr. Kuennen stated
that Planning Department staff recommends approval of the preliminary and final
plat subject to the 7 stipulations listed in the August 13, 2010 planning report.
Chair Davis opened the hearing to the public for comment.
Patricia Millard, 18329 Italy Avenue
➢ Headlights from cars turning left onto Italy Avenue from the street
connection will shine into her house.
➢ Very much against extending Ironstone Way to Italy Avenue.
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➢ Will create more dust from gravel road.
➢ Feels safe knowing the cars passing her house are her neighbors.
➢ Afraid the wildlife will disappear due to the increased traffic.
Brian Trcka, 18290 Italy Avenue
➢ When is the 185f Street expansion due to be completed?
➢ Why can't the connection to Italy Avenue wait until the 185th Street
improvements are completed?
➢ Where is the money coming from for the Italy Avenue/ Ironstone Way
connection?
Bob Utz, 18237Italy Avenue
➢ Does not feel this connection to Italy Avenue will be of benefit to the
neighborhood right now.
➢ Questioned the proposed construction of a 24 foot street connection rather
than the typical 32 foot street.
➢ Concerned about how much additional traffic will use Italy Avenue.
➢ Would like to see a "Dead End" sign placed on Italy Avenue north of the
Ironstone Way connection.
John Meyer, 18155 Italy Avenue
➢ Concerned about the additional traffic on Italy Avenue and all the dust that
the neighbors currently endure and will have to endure in the future. He
believes it's a safety hazard with all the loose gravel at the intersection of
185t" Street and Italy Avenue.
Joyce Spear, 18132 Italy Avenue
➢ Confirmed that the first phase of 20 single family home lots is in the
southeast corner of Quail Ridge Third Addition.
➢ When will the possible future road be constructed to 185th Street on the
property east of Italy Avenue?
➢ Will there be a stop sign at the new intersection of Italy Avenue and
Ironstone Way?
➢ Believes it is very difficult to cross Ipava Avenue from the Quail Ridge
development.
10.36 Motion was made and seconded to close the public hearing at 6:22 p.m.
Ayes: Maguire, Lillehei, Davis, Adler, Grenz, Drotning, Glad.
Nays: 0
Chair Davis asked City staff to address the questions that the residents have asked
at tonight's meeting.
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Assistant City Engineer Zach Johnson responded to the questions pertaining to
streets.
• 185t Street is a County road and Dakota County will determine a timeline
for when it gets updated. 185th Street was previously planned to be
upgraded but the County did not receive federal funding so it was removed
from their Five Year Capital Improvement Plan.
• The extension of public sanitary sewer and watermain is included in the
Quail Ridge Second Addition development. There is no water service to
Italy Avenue right now. The City will pay 100% of the costs for the portion
of the watermain located outside of the Quail Ridge Third Addition plat.
This will allow Italy Avenue residents to pursue connecting to the watermain
in the future when Italy Avenue is upgraded.
• The City is making the recommendation to make the connection to Italy
Avenue now to provide a high level of connectivity, as identified in the
Comprehensive Plan, to the Italy Avenue neighborhood for general
neighborhood traffic circulation as well as for improved police and fire
response. This connection has been identified since 2004 when the Quail
Ridge development came forward.
• The City is recommending the 24 foot wide street to minimize the
disturbance to the adjacent property owners and to reduce the overall
impervious surface area to limit the amount of stormwater treatment
required.
• There have been no additional traffic studies done for the Italy Avenue
connection. City staff does not anticipate a significant increase in traffic. The
Quail Ridge and Italy Avenue residents will mainly be using the street
connection. Other studies have shown that speeds are actually decreased
when more street connections are provided.
• Location of the "Dead End" sign will be reviewed by staff. The current sign
could stay and perhaps an additional sign could be installed just north of the
Italy Avenue/ Ironstone Path intersection.
• A stop sign at the Italy Avenue/ Ironstone Path intersection would be
standard and would be completed with the construction of the street
connection.
• The future street connection from Quail Ridge to 185th Street east of Italy
Avenue will occur when that adjacent property develops.
Chair Davis asked for comments from the Planning Commission. Discussion points
were:
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• Additional dust was discussed. Mr. Johnson stated that the Public Works
Department maintains the City's aggregate roads. Staff will refer the
matter to the Public Works Department to address this issue.
• Regarding the question of "why provide the connection to Italy Avenue
now," Mr. Kuennen clarified that the developer will pay 100% of the cost
for the portion of Ironstone Way within the Quail Ridge plat and the City
will pay 100% of the cost for the portion outside the Quail Ridge plat
boundaries. If the connection is deferred to a future date, the City
(taxpayers) will have to pay 100% of the cost of the entire connection.
• Since Italy Avenue is aggregate, why not construct Ironstone Way as
aggregate also and not pave it. Mr. Johnson indicated that paving the
road is the City's current standard. Mr. Morey stated that you're going to
have to have a transition from aggregate to pavement and the
intersection of the two streets is a good location. In addition, paving the
entire extension of Ironstone Way to Italy Avenue will help with dust
control. When residents request City sanitary sewer and watermain
services, Italy Avenue will be paved and upgraded at that time.
• Clarified that the sidewalk on Ironstone Way will not extend outside the
Quail Ridge plat boundaries. Mr. Johnson replied that the sidewalk
could be terminated at the Ironstone Way/ Irvine Lane intersection.
• Commissioner Drotning pointed out the value of the paved street
connection being at no cost to the residents if it is constructed now plus it
controls dust.
• Commissioner Drotning noted that the typical single family home makes
10 vehicle trips a day. He indicated that the neighborhood traffic pattern
will change but it will be minor. The City consistently looks to improve
neighborhood street connections.
• Commissioner Grenz felt that the 24 foot street section should be posted
no parking at least on one side of the road so that emergency vehicles can
get through.
• Commissioner Glad noted the letters from the police and fire
departments commenting strongly for the second access to the Italy
Avenue neighborhood. Confirmed that these letters were of public
record.
• Commissioner Drotning asked if the size of the sewer and water line
extensions are adequate to serve the Italy Avenue neighborhoods and is
the street connection between Italy Avenue and Ixonia Avenue feasible.
Mr. Johnson stated that there is existing right -of -way for the connection
of Italy Avenue and Ixonia Avenue. He indicated that there are
environmental constraints, such as elevations and possible wetlands that
could feasibly prevent this connection. Regarding the sanitary sewer and
water extension, City staff has a taken a preliminary look at that and
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believes it could serve both neighborhoods, but the Ixonia Avenue
neighborhood could also be served by a sanitary sewer line that is
currently located south of 185th Street.
• Mr. Morey reiterated the connection point at Italy Avenue. The City's
requirements regarding the length of cul -de -sac streets have changed
since Italy Avenue was constructed. The Ironstone Way connection will
reduce the length of the long Italy Avenue cul -de -sac. Also keep in mind
that the 185th Street improvements, the Italy Avenue improvements, and
the connection to Italy Avenue are not tied together. Staff does not want
185f Street upgraded with median restricting turning movements for
Italy Avenue without a second access for the neighborhood.
• There was a discussion regarding the difference between an urban street
section and a rural street section. An urban section has concrete curb and
gutter. A rural section consists of pavement that slopes down through a
swale. Mr. Johnson stated that existing conditions affects which type of
street section is constructed. The Quail Ridge development has an urban
street section which will transition into a rural section within the existing
Suburban Acres right -of -way. In the future, if the rural street section is
upgraded to an urban street section, the current street will remain and the
street will be widened. This will lessen the disruption to the
neighborhood if this upgrade is made in the future. The Planning
Commission concurred with staffs recommendation of a 24 foot rural
street section for the portion of the Ironstone Way connection located
outside the Quail Ridge plat.
• The "Dead End" road sign that is currently on Italy Avenue was
discussed further. Mr. Morey stated that the original sign will stay at it's
present location. Staff will discuss the installation of an additional sign
on Italy Avenue north of the intersection of Ironstone Way and Italy
Avenue with the Public Works Department.
•
10.37 Motion was made and seconded to recommend to City Council approval of the
Quail Ridge Third Addition preliminary plat of 34 single family lots and final plat
of 20 single family residential lots, located west of Ipava Avenue, south of 183rd
Street and north of 185f Street (CSAH 60), subject to the following stipulations:
1. The recommendations outlined in the August 13, 2010 Engineering report.
2. The recommendations of the Parks Recreation and Natural Resources
Committee.
3. Five -foot sidewalks must be constructed at the developer's expense on the
north side of Ironstone Way and on the east side of Irvine Lane.
4. A 12 -foot tall buffer yard screen, including a six-foot berm, must be
maintained along Ipava Avenue.
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5. The buffer yard berm on Lot 1, Block 1 must be sodded to the edge of the
trail along Ipava Avenue. A $1,000 cash escrow must be submitted with the
building permit application for Lot 1, Block 1 to guarantee the installation of
the sodding. This escrow will be in addition to the landscape /sod escrow
required for this lot at the time of building permit.
6. A barricade must be installed by the developer at the south end of Irvine
Street until the street is extended in the future.
7. All single- family homes must comply with the following RS -2, Single Family
District setbacks:
Front Yard: 30 feet.
Rear Yard: 30 feet.
Rear Yard (abutting Ipava Avenue): 50 feet
Side Yard (interior): 15 feet.
Side Yard (corner): 30 feet.
Ayes: Lillehei, Davis, Adler, Grenz, Drotning, Glad, Maguire.
Nays: 0
ITEM 8. STAFF NOTICES
The Planning Commissioners indicated that September 23rd will work for the next
meeting date. The Planning Commission Secretary will send out an e-mail message
as a reminder of the September Planning Commission meeting date, cancellations
and changes.
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 7:12 p.m.
The Planning Commission went immediately into a work session.
Respectfully submitted,
Penny Brevig, Recording
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