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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
April 5,.1984
Steve Sizer, Chairman, called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
in the Lakeville City Council Chambers.
Roll call of members was taken. Present: Walters, MacGibbon,
Sizer, Langhorst, Heald, Miller. Absent: Lambert (arrived. at
7:07 p.m.)
Also present: Tom Grundhoefer, City Attorney; Jim Robinette,
Community Development Director; David Licht, City Planner;
Shirley Sorensen, Recording .Secretary.
Chairman Sizer called for additions or corrections to the minutes
of the. March 15, 1984 meeting. Heald added the words 'and was
directed to City Staff for further information.' on to the fourth
paragraph from the bottom on page 1, following Carpet Values
Building; and the words 'and the engineers to review the traffic.
design.' to motion 84.39 on page 2, after street parking only.
84.48 Motion. was made by Heald, seconded. by Miller, to approve the
minutes of the March 15, 1984 p.c. meeting, as amended.
Roll call was taken on the motion. Ayes: Walters, MacGbbon,
Miller, Heald, Langhorst. .Abstain:. Sizes
Chairman Sizer opened the continued public hearing on the
application of North Creek Mobile Home Community, for a mobile
home park south. of 170th Street, on the west side of Pilot Knob
Road, and for a minor comprehensive plan change to include. the
land in the 1990 Planned Urban Service Area. Mr. Robinette
explained there had been meetings with the DNR regarding this
flood plain area and they are still collecting data before making
their final decision..
Mr. Ken Grund and Mr. B11 Block represented North Creek Mobile
Home Community and stated that the owners of Countryview had
always planned to run one main street all through this develop-
m{ent, from back before this plat was officially drawn. They also
f~el that 32 foot back-to-back dimension of streets is fine and
that a 36 foot street is too wide. They had not understood how
many extra parking. spates were required, according to .the
.planner's letter dated 4/3/84... Mr. Block doesn't feel that there
will be much. effect downstream by changing culvert size. Mr.
Grund stated they are working very closely with the DNR and Barr
Engineering regarding the flood plain.
Betty Sindt, a resident. of Countryview Mobile Home Park, s aced
again. that she feels there would be just too much traffic if
Countryview Trail were hooked up to Phase Three of North Creek.
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Mr. Licht said that staff has not done an in-depth traffic study.
He also stated that street widths can be required that vary from
what our ordinance says is a minimum. Mr. Block stated they
would meet whatever requirements the City has.
Mr. Pete Boelter, 9530 178th Street, Farmington, school counsel-
or, wondered about the impact on the schools, how many children
will there be from this size development. Mr. Robinette stated
he has talked to Farmington Superintendent, who stated. they would
gladly take all the students they can get. Mr. Licht stated that
the school districts are aware of the projected growth in the
Lakeville area.
Discussion followed regarding length of lots, width of mobile
homes, open spaces., width of.streets, accesses, flood plain.
modification,. parking, and number of lots.
84.49 Motion was made by Lambert, seconded by Miller, to close the
public hearing.
Roll call. was taken. on the motion. Ayes: Unanimous
84.50. Motion was made by MacGibbon, seconded by Lambert, to recommend
to City Council .approval. of the application of North Creek Mobile
Home Community for. a mobile .home park south of 170th Street,
subject to:
1. Recommendations in the .planner`s report of April 3, 1984.
2. Letter to Mr. Block from planner, dated March 26, 1984.
3. DNR approval.
4. Staff recommendations.
S. 36` wide collector street.
6. No west connection to Countryview Trail except as a
minimum emergency street.
7. One extra visitor parking space, so signed, in each
parking bay (.totaling. five spaces per bay).
8. A minor comprehensive plan change to include the land in
the 1990 Planned Urban :Service Area.
Roll call was taken on the motion. Ayes: Walters, MacGibbon,
Heald, Lambert. Nays: Millen, Szer, Langhorst
Miller's nay was because he would like to have. had it tabled
until after the DNR has made it`s decision. He also wondered
about the culvert b@ing sufficient to handle the run-off. in this
area.
Sizer's nay was because he objects to the. overall design and
feels we have a golden opportunity to make a statement that the
City>of Lakeville is going to quit making a distinction between
R-2 subdivisions and do .away with a concept of a mobile home
park. Also, not enough provision made for double wide mobile
homes..
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Langhorst has a problem with the Phase Three second .access and
also agrees with Mr. Sizer's comments.
Chairman Sizer opened the public hearing on the application of
Oswald Wurdeman Trust for the vacation of the street dedicated to
the city in the Lyndale Lakes Club First Addition plat and named
Valley View Place. Mr. Grundhoefer attested to the proper
published and mailed notices having .been given for this hearing.
Mr. Robinette explained-what the .intent is here, to vacate a
street from an old plat that could not be put in, as it deadends
in a lake, and retain drainage and utility easements.
84.51 Motion was made by Miller, seconded by Heald, to close the public.
hearing.
Roll call was taken. on the motion. Ayes: Unanimous
84.52 Motion was made by Miller, seconded by Langhorst, to recommend to
city council approval of this vacation of street named Valley
View-Place,: with required easements,. and any. other staff recom-
mendations.
Roll call was taken on the motion. Ayes: Unanimous
Chairman Sizer opened the public hearing on the application of
Nancy Schauer for a special home occupation permit to set up a
beauty salon at 18246 Italy Avenue. Mr. Grundhoefer attested to
the proper mailed and published notices having been given for
thishearing. Mr. Licht. stated that signing had not been.
addressed .and that they recommend review of the permit after the
first year. Sizer feels that commercial businesses should go in
a commercial area.
84.53 Motion was made by Heald, seconded by MacGibbon, to close the
public. hearing.
Roll call was taken on the motion. Ayes: Unanimous
84.54 Motion was made by Langhorst, seconded by Lambert, to recommend
to City Council approval of the special home occupation permit
..for Nancy Schauer to set ug a beauty salon, subject to the
planner's recommendations of 3/26/84, signage be reviewed and
approved by the City, and permit be reviewed after the first
year.
Roll call was taken on the motion. Ayes: Unanimous
Chairman. Sizer opened the. public. hearing on the application of
Lakeville Development Co. for a subdivision, planned unit
development conditional use permit and rezoning from B-4 to R-6
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for multiple housing in the vicinity of Holt Avenue and Highway
50. Mr. Grundhoefer attested to the proper mailed and published
notices having been given for this hearing..
Mr. Lichtstatedtheywould recommend approval .subject to-staff
re-review to make sure they have updated according to the
planner's report dated April. 2, 1984
84.55 Motion was made. by Miller, seconded by Walters, to close the
public hearing....
Roll. call was taken on the motion. Ayes: Unanimous
84.56 Motion was made by Heald, seconded by Miller, to recommend
approval to city council on the application of Lakeville Dev. Co.
for a subdivision, planned unit deuelopment conditional use
permit and rezoning from B-4 to R-6 for multiple housing,. subject
to the review. and recommendations of the planner's report ..dated
April 2, 1984, and any other staff recommendations.
Roll call was taken on the motion.. Ayes: Unanimous.
Chairman Szer opened the public hearing on the application of
Farmington Cong. Jehovah's Witnesses. for a conditional use permit
to build a church, on Cedar Avenue,. north of 210th Street.. Mr.
Grundhoefer attested to the proper mailed and published notices
having been given for this hearing. Mr. Quentin Newland was in .
attendance to answer questions about the building of this church.
Discussion followed regarding landscape plans, additional parking
spaces, screening, well, signing.., and surfacing of the driveway
within 6 months of occupancy.
84.57 Motion was made by Miller, seconded by Walters, to close the
public .hearing.
Roll call was taken on the motion. Ayes:. Unanimous
84.58 Motion was made by Miller, seconded by Walters, to recommend to
City Council approval of .the conditional use permit to build a
church on Cedar Avenue, subject to the recommendations in the
planner's report of 3/28./84, specifically to the paving of the.
parking. lot within 6 months from time of occupancy, and any other
staff recommendations.
Roll call was taken. on the motion. Ayes: Unanimous
Chairman Sizer opened the public: hearing on the application of
Queen Anne. Courts for rezoning from B-4, General Business to-
R-MH, Mobile Home. Park and for development approval for the
expansion of Queen Anne Park. Mr. Grundhoefer attested to the
proper mailed. and published notices having been given for this..
hearing. Mr. Robinette `stated that no sufficient grading or
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drainage plans have been submitted to the City. Also, the City
has planned. for a park in that area for a long time., and the
developer would like a park to the west - not to the north. The
Park Director stated that the land to the west could possibly be
considered if things were just right.
Mr. Don Hess, Landplan, Inc., made the presentation for the
developer, explaining what they propose to do at Queen Anne
Mobile Home Park. He stated that he feels strongly that this
design can be worked out, although they have come up on a few
problems. Currently they are planning for water to go to both
the. old and the new parks. He stated they will be getting a
grading plan to the City. that they hope will be acceptable. and
will pursue developing a park to the west, with that landowner.
The following items were discussedt landscaping, entrances to
the park(s), fire dept. access to water, storm protection bldg.,.
secured storage area, setbacks, screening,•distance between
homes, and many of the things that had been discussed at our
March 1, 1984 p.c. meeting.
Mr. Bob Rystrom, 11325 172nd Street, was spokesman for many of
the neighbors. of this proposed .park and stated that the land. to
the west is swamp. He said these neighbors are. all adamantly
opposed to this expansion. He cited a school burden, traff is on
to 172nd St would be unreal, many incidents have taken place
already (If we don't have the manpower now, what will happen. with
• this increase?), noise pollution, Orchard Lake already over-
crowded, decrease in property values (will discourage people from
buying homes), streets crowded with cars, boats, etc., violation
of private drive (do not want it expanded), and many more reasons
listed in the attached petition signed by 136 resident
Chairman Sizer received this petition (including aerial pictures)
signed by 136 residents .opposed to expansion of Queen Anne Park.
Mr. David Olson, 11516 172nd St., explained that the proposed
ponding is more like a lake.
Mr. Bob Peterson, 17496 Kodiak. Ave, saidhe had also talked to
the. people .that own the land where the road is proposed to go
over. the tracks and said. it couldn't be done. He suggested that
we take a drive through the old park, saying this new park will
be an old park in 10 years and will look. just like Queen Anne
does today. He also stated that the building that was the storm
shelter in old Queen Anne is now being used as someone's home.
Mr. Bi11 Stone was concerned about safety - would like to have
seen a detailed. plan for shelters. Also.,-where will they put
boats, trailers,.. etc
Ms. Lois Kindvall, 17137 Kirben Ave:, felt that $1500 a year in
taxes is too much to pay for dodging cars coming from this park
now.
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Ms. Rosalyn Wilson, 11538 172nd St., does not want her land
having any more water than she already has..
Mr. Robinette stated that there is an approved proposal for the
interchange and widening of Highway 50-5, construction scheduled
to begin. in the summer of 1985.
Chairman Sizer stated that he feels that the highest and best use
of the property is as B-4. With. the development going on in
Lakeville now, the B-4 will be able to be more- compatible with
the surrounding R-2 zoning district.
84.59 Motion was made by MacGbbon, seconded by Miller, to close
the public hearing.
Roll. call was taken on the motion. Ayes: Unanimous
84.60 Motion was made by Sizer, seconded by Langhorst, to recommend to
city council denial on the application of Queen Anne Courts for
rezoning .from B-4, General Business to R-MH, Mobile Home Park,
for the reasons stated earlier.
Roll call was taken on the motion. Ayes: Unanimous
84.61. Motion was made by MacGibbon, seconded by Miller, to table any
action on the development for the expansion of Queen Anne Park
until. the City Council acts on the rezoning.
Roll call was taken on the motion. Ayes.: Unanimous
Chairman Sizer opened the public hearing. on the application of
Autumn Winds Farms for rezoning from R-1, low density single
family, to R-A, single family-agricultural, and a conditional use
permit for the operation of a commercial stable at 19198 Judicial
Road. Mr. Grundhoefer attested to the proper mailed and pub-
lished notices having been given for this hearing...
Ms. Judy Titcomb was in attendance representing the applicant and
asked that this matter be tabled until the next meeting, to give
them time for surveying, etc. Mr. Licht agreed it would be
better to give everyone more. time for study and Gable until April
19th. Ms. Sharon Sinner was in attendance, asked if her 3-page
letter had been distributed to p.c. members, and. was told it
would be along with afll other pertinent. information, prior to
next meeting.
84.62 Motion was made. by Miller, seconded.. by Langhorst, to continue
this public hearing until the. April 19, 1984 meeting, to give
applicant and. staff more time for gathering information.
Roll call. was taken on the motion. Ayes:. Unanimous
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Chairman Sizer called on Mr. Licht. to explain what has happened
on the Dodd Pointe Plat. He gave some of the detail and what
changes have been made in getting this plat in accordance with
staff recommendations.
Mr. Jim Hill and Mr. Pat Finnegan represented the developer and.
expressed indignation about Mr. Blumberg's performance at the
February 2nd planning. commission meeting. He asked p.c. members.
to put out of their minds the things Mr. Blumberg said previ-
ously, while making their. decision on this plat.. He said the
owners of the property are nice people and had a difficult piece
of property to work with. Mr. Hill explained the type of homes
they would be building, the correct spacing to be achieved, and
berming along the county road.
84.b3 .Motion was made by Lambert, seconded by Walters, to recommend to
city council approval of the revised Dodd Pointe Subdivision plat
for. R-2 planned unit development conditional use permit,. rezoning.
from. R-2 to B-3, and approval of the preliminary plat,. subject to
recommendations of City .Staff.
Roll call was taken on the motion. Ayes: Unanimous
84.64 Motion was made by MacGibbon to close the meeting. Voice vote
was taken on the motion.
• Chairman Sizer adjourned the meeting at 11:05 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Dennis Miller, Secretary
ATTEST:
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S even C. Sizer, Chai n
*Attachment
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