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City of Lakeville
Planning Commission Meeting
August 21, .1980
The meeting was called t~ order at 7:30 p.m. by Chairman Charles Johnson. Roll
.call was taken: Present:; Antolik, Johnson, Asmus, Enright, Harvey. Absent:
Ge i sness, Rice . i
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Also present: David Licht, City Planner; Frank Kriz, City Engineer; Roger Knutson,
City Attorney; Sid Miller{, Building Official; Alan Brixius, Northwest Associated
Consultants.
Review of minutes from t e Planning Commission meeting on August 7, 1980 was
conducted .
80.133 Motion was made by Enri~ht, seconded by Asmus to approve the August 7, 1980 Planning
Commission meeting min tes.
Roll call was taken on the motion: Ayes: Antolik, Johnson, Asmus, Enright. Abstain:
Harvey ~
Chairman Johnson opened the continued public hearing on the application of Jerry
Everson and Thomas Ames for a preliminary plat known as Lakeview Heights located on
the south side of 1$5th Sheet and approximately one-half mile east of Highway 50.
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Mr. Ames introduced Ski Tucker. from Northwestern Bell Maintenance Department to
discuss the relocation of ~he telephone cable running through the Lakeview Heights
subdivision. Mr. Tucker stated that movement of the cable would be at the developer's
expense. The telephone'~cable is located in a utility easement and has been in place
since 1946. Relocation cif the cable should lower the cable 5 feet below grade to avoid
conflict with other firms c~nd utilities that might share the easement.. The new placement
of the cable will cause n~ problems. The City of Lakeville is not served by this cable,
rather the City receives telephone service from a cable out of Farmington, so any damage
that may occur to the cak~le will not result in loss of telephone service.
Mr. Licht raised a questi~rn whether the concrete conduit is necessary as addressed in
.the planner's report. Mrs Tucker stated that the conduit was not necessary. Mr. Licht
asked whose advise the C~ty should follow, Mr. Tucker or the Northwestern Bell Engineer?
Mr. Tucker stated that h ~ was head of maintenance for the cable and that the only place
that the cable was place in concrete conduit was the Burnsville Shopping Center so that
any cable maintenance w uld not require tearing up the parking lot.
Mr. Licht also asked who was responsible if cable was damaged in public right-of-way?
Stating that the City willjnot be held responsible for any damage to the telephone cable
and that the Developer's ~4greementwill address the concern in such a matter. Mr.
• Tucker stated that the responsibility for damages would be the developer's.
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Mr. Johnson asked if Northwestern Bell has plans for additional lines. Mr. Tucker
stated that he did not know. Mr. Johnson asked if there has been any plans for abandon-
ment of the cable. Mr. Tucker said that there has been some talk, but no confirmation
of any abandonment plans. Mr. Harvey asked if abandonment occurred, would the
telephone company reclaim the copper cable? Mr. Tucker responded no reclamation
would take place
Steve Grohoski asked if a homeowner or individual contractor damaged the cable who
would be responsible? Mr. Tucker stated that it was the individual contractor's
responsibility for damages. Mr. Grohoski asked is the City liable for damages that
occur in public right-of-way? Mr. Licht said that the City will not be held responsible
for any damages to the telephone cable .
Ron Draper (10132 185th Street, Lakeville) stated that 185th Street is classified as a minor
arterial and :will handle large traffic volumes. He was concerned that three lots abut
185th Street and this would be a safety hazard for children from the subdivision who may
play near the street. Mr. Draper also was concerned that the two access points on 1$5th
Street may also present traffic hazards.
Mr. Draper was also concerned with the site drainage. He stated that he has only seen a
memorandum from the Engineer, no drainage detail has been available. •
In closing, Mr. Draper stated that the density was not in accordance with the City's
Comprehensive Plan policies stating that the City should protect low density residential .
Mr. Licht asked Mr. Draper if he checked the definition of low density in the Compre-
hensive Plan. Mr. Draper said no.
Steve Grohoski (18848 Chaplin Avenue, Lakeville) asked what percentage of the .plat
drains to the west? Mr. Asmus stated that all drainage goes to the east. Mr. Grohoski
stated that the neighboring properties opposed the proposed density. He stated that
Planning District 10 is characterized by .low density and high value development and
low and mid-density development is recommended for District 10. Currently there are no
lots below 15,000 square feet and the proposed subdivision has lots of 11,000 square feet.
Mr. Grohoski then read from fihe City Housing Plan, stating that lower density residential
areas are to be protected from higher intensity uses with proper transitions, landscaping
and buffering. He opposes the plat because the developer has made no effort to change
the plat design and the developer has not provided adequate buffering.
Mr. Grohoski also questioned whether the Commission could act on both the final plat
and the preliminary plat. at the same time. Mr. Knutson responded saying the Subdivision
Ordinance had been amended which allowed action on both the preliminary and final plat.
Mr. Licht added that the plat is evaluated with the ordinance that is in effect at the
moment. Mr. Grohoski said that he was unaware of such an ordinance and that since
he had purchased a copy of the City Code he should have been informed. Mr. Licht
stated that he would receive the amendment in the near future.
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Mr. Grohoski concluded, by stating the developer has not given adequate consideration.
to providing alternative'~ubdivision layouts, He added that the higher density would
destroy the land values c~nd the market for Larger lots in the area. Currently, larger
lots are marketable and #hat redesign of subdivision with larger lots would not be
economically unfeasible
Dick Lawernson (Lakevil'le) questioned how Mr. Grohoski could be in favor of the
proposed multiple familyl,development 1/5 mile west of the plat and opposed to the
Lakeview Heights plat. I,He stated that the proposed density would help to provide
more affordable homes fc~r working families. Mr. Lawernson concluded by stating
the developers are creda~le men who will stay and live in Lakeville and their work
will be high quality.
Tom Clark (Lakeville) rased a concern that during the grading of the plat if the runoff
would flow west and inta~ his pond. Mr. Kriz stated that the grading of the plat will
prevent drainage from f l¢wi ng to the west .
Mr. Licht stated that a grading plan is required in the plate review process. The plat
drainage will go to the east. The policy of the City is that the development shall not
• produce any access runo~f than what currently exists.
Mr. Draper asked about he drainage review done by Mr. Kriz. Mr. Kriz responded
stating that the grading ~lan is submitted with the final plat. This final grading plan
must be approved prior t~ any development occurring. Once development starts, no
deviation from the gradirfig plan is permitted.
Mr. Grohoski asked thatthe developer provide grading and drainage plans with the
preliminary plat and pro~ide copies of the plan for review.
Mr. Johnson asked if a plan had been done by Mr. Kriz. Mr. Licht responded stating
that a schematic drainag plan was done to check if Mr. Draper's comments of June 30,
1980 were correct. Mr. Draper stated that the collection pond was added. Mr. Licht
said that was correct. Itl was added to insure that no negative .impacts would result on
the. neighboring lots.
Mr. Grohoski stated. than the density may permit affordable housing, however, there are
other areas of the City were affordable housing can be developed.. He noted Foxborough
as an example.
John Adams (Lakeville) s ated that he wanted to purchase a large lot in the area. He
noted that the Grohoski subdivision is a somewhat exclusive area,. however, has postponed
• his decision until he kne' what impacts may result from higher density development.
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Motion was made by Asmus, seconded by Harvey to close the public hearing.
Roil call was taken on the motion: Ayes: Enright, Harvey, Antolik, Johnson,..
Asmus .
Mr. Asmus noted the area had been zoned R-2, 11,000 square foot lots fora long time.
He questioned the Commission's right to restrict the developer from developing his land
when they meet the established requirements .
Mr. Asmus also stated that he opposed having a single access to the plat from 185th
Street because an obstruction of the single access-would create problems for emergency
vehilces.
Mr. Harvey asked if drainage left the plat. Mr. Kriz responded no,
Mr. Asmus asked how to protect the telephone cable. Mr. Licht responded with a
recommendation from the planner's report of August 4, 1980. The City will not accept
responsibility for cable damages. This shall be guaranteed by the developer's agree-
ment. The cable shall also be encased in concrete conduit in the street right-of-way.
Mr. Johnson asked if the Engineer's map will show the cable easement. Mr. Licht •
said the cable easement will be displayed on the plat map.
Mr. Grohoski quoted his Attorney's letter dated June 30, 1980, which said that the
City does not have to approve a plat because it meets subdivision requirements. Approval
of that plat should insure that the comprehensive plan is implemented. Mr. Knutson
responded, stating that the attorney writing the letter was definding his client and the
letter didn't document any statutes that supported his argument. He stated that the
Planning Commission does have some leeway for decision-making.
Mr. Johnson said the subdivision has no park land designated. Mr. Licht stated the
Park Commission agreed to a cash donation instead of land. The Park Commission is
responsible for park land dedications. Not every single family subdivision requires park
{and, a subdivision this small will not have the people to fully utilize the park or
afford to maintain it. Mr. Johnson stated there is no land available in the area. Mr.
Licht stated that park land is not a requirement. Mr. Harvey said that by accepting
cash donations from small subdivisions has resulted in no parks. Mr. Licht asked where
they would place a park in this plat, no area. is acceptable. Cash contribution pays for
more suitable park lands. Single family development has yard space that is suitable for
children's recreational needs. Multiple family development does not. have yard space,
and should require park land . Mr. Johnson stated that local parks are needed .
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Mr. Harvey asked what as to be voted on. Mr. Knutson said preliminary. plat. Mr.
Licht stated that the pre ions public. hearing was invalid due to the lack of a publ fished
map. .
80.134 Motion was made by Asm~s, seconded by Antolik to approve the preliminary plat contingent
on the developer meeting the recommendations of the planner's and engir?eer's reports.
Rall call was taken on the motion: Ayes: Enright, Harvey, Asmus, Antolik . N~vs:
Johnson. Mr. Johnson stated his opposition was because of lack of public recrea,~on.
Mr. Licht suggested that the Commission table final plat until September 4, 1980.
$0.135 Motion was made by Har~ey, seconded by Asmus to table the final plat until next
Planning Commission mes~ting.
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Rol I cal I was taken on th~ motion: Ayes: Anto) ik, Johnson, Asmus, Enright, Harvey
The applicant was advised that the preliminary plat willbe in front of the City_Gouncil
on September 2, 1980.
• Ms. Enright stated that t e Planning Commission and Park Commission should meet to
resolve their differences I n the park development philosophies.
Chairman Johnson opened the public hearing on .the application for Mike Gannon far a
rezoning of lots 2, 3 and the south 20 feet of lot 4, Block 2, Fairfield Addition, and
a conditional use permit tIo expand the Old, Station restaurant at the corner of 210th
Street and Holyoke Avenge .
Mr. Knutson stated the meting was properly advertised.
David Lich# expressed Dorothy Cannon's concerns regarding the condition of the applicant's
fence on the border of hey property. The solid portion of the fence was recommended by
Northwest Consultants as ~ noise barrier, however, the fence aril retaining. wal( must be
corrected. Mr. Licht recommended the fence be corrected in accordance with the
Building Official's recom ndations.
Mr. Licht stated the applicant's request was described in the planner's report. The
proposal was acceptable y zoning and the comprehensive plan and contingent. on the
car lot use. doesn't exist a ter February 1A81 .
Mrs. Gannon stated that he approval should be contingent on fence repairs. Mr. Gannon
questioned the repairs. r. Harvey stated thatthe City should respond in the same manner
as it requires its residents; .noting the fence at the municipal liquor store.
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Mr. Licht said the comprehensive plan along with other considerations make this area
suitable for rezoning .
80.136 Motion was made by Enright, seconded by Harvey to close the public hearing.
Roll call was taken on the motion: Ayes: Anto) ik, Johnson, Asmus, Enright, Harvey.
Mr. Antolik asked if the Gannon home was sold, what restrictions would exist.
Mr. Licht said the same restrictions that currently exist based upon the PUD.
80.137 Motion was made by Harvey, seconded by Johnson to approve the rezoning and
conditional use permit subject to the applicant's repair of his fence within 90 days after
the City repairs their fence and contingent upon the planner's recommendations.
80.138 Mr . Antolik asked i f the motion will stand as i t is ?
Mr . Harvey moved to rescind the portion regarding within 90 days of the City repairing
their fence. Mr. Johnson agreed and seconded.
Roll call was taken on the motion: Ayes: Enright, Harvey, Antolik, Johnson, Asmus.
The applicant was advised ghat his request will come before the City Council on
.September 2, 1980.
Chairman Johnson .opened discussion of the site plan review of the new office-warehouse
building for Car Quest to be built at the corner of 215th Street and Granada Avenue in
Airlake Industrial Park.
Mr. Licht stated that review by the Engineer found drainage problems on the site. Mr.
Kriz stated parking. on the site is adequate for the warehouse facility, however, an
area for additional parking must be displayed for potential future expansion. Drainage.
problems are present and a holding pond may be required, however, the Architect is
wilting to work with the Engineer to resolve any problems. A certificate of survey was
also recommended prior to application for building permit.
Mr. Licht recommended approval contingent on the Engineer's comments.
Mr. O'Shay, the Architect representing the applicant, stated only minor problems exist
and that he was willing. to work with the Engineer to meet City requirements. The property
owners are proceeding ,to secure bonds, and scheduling is limited, thus they are requesting
the Planning Commission to take action.
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80.139 Motion was made by Asm s, seconded by Antolik to approve the Car Quest Project,
subject to City Engineer's approval and a certificate of survey prior to issuance of
building permit.
Roll call was taken on th~ motion: Ayes: Asmus, Enright, Harvey, Antolik, Johnson.
Chairman Johnson opened discussion of the review of the new sign ordinance draft.
Mr. Licht suggested review of the sign ordinance be tabled until next Planning Commission
meeting .
Mr. Johnson noted publics hearing is on September 11, 1980.
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Mr. Licht advised the Commission of work on the Despatch Industries/Fire Station No, 1
Project and noted the req}~ired rezoning and conditional use permits. which were required.
While not condoning the project pro or con, the Planning Commission has the authority
to initiate the request for rezoning and conditional use permit to start the Tax Increment
Project.
.140 Motion was made by Asm s, seconded by Enright to initiate the rezoning and conditional
use permit for the Despateh Industries/Fire Station No. 1 Tax Increment Project.
Roll call was taken on the motion: Ayes: Antolik, Johnson, Asmus, Enright,. Harvey.
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80.141 Motion was made by Asmus, seconded by Enright to adjourn the meeting.
Voice vote was. taken on the motion: Ayes: Unanimous
The Chairman adjourned t e meeting at 9:30 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Pa rick Harve Acting Secretary
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